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It appears that crack us is still high in Redmond.
"Microsoft says it may withhold shipping Vista to European Union states when it distributes the operating system next month to computer makers and companies"

I have used RC1; it is _nowhere_ near ready for prime time.

32 bit drivers arent too great and 64 bit driver support flat out suck on common hardware like:

A 2 yr old ASUS SK8V.

DeLL Precision 370.

SB Audigy driver doesent even have HW acceleration .
3com 3c940 gigabit LOM has no 64 bit driver....
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That undeniable scent of a lawsuit is unfurling here .  Intellihence | 10/02/06
hehe  galileon | 10/02/06
Why?  John Zern | 10/02/06
Did they come out ahead in  Jack-Booted EULA | 10/02/06
If its not NO AX ZERN ! - NT  raycote | 10/02/06
Why? Microsoft is right and  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
And in other news  zkiwi | 10/02/06
As if the EU mattered.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
MicroSoft_Ax_to_Grind & Grind & Grind & Grind...NT  raycote | 10/02/06
Another useless insight from Bitty.  thelemite | 10/03/06
Well, we can wait and see yes.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
Microsoft can't win...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/04/06
Hmm  rapson | 10/02/06
Hmm Indeed  Badgered | 10/02/06
inherent weakness  FADS_z | 10/02/06
And wouldn't they...  A.Sinic | 10/02/06
re: and wouldn't they  Badgered | 10/03/06
re: inherent weakness  Badgered | 10/03/06
Exactlly! (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
Well...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Security thru obscurity is not....  thelemite | 10/03/06
It appears that crack us is still high in Redmond.  Suicida| | 10/02/06
Convenient Truth; Another Vista delay?  mighetto | 10/02/06
I suspect there's a lot more to this story....  rock06r | 10/02/06
You're missing it...  techboy_z | 10/02/06
They should make it work  voska | 10/02/06
Y'know . . .  jlhenry62 | 10/03/06
You might be right about ZA, but rumor has it...  rock06r | 10/03/06
McAfee should let M$ to crash and burn  Linux Geek | 10/02/06
So you agree!  smartyram | 10/02/06
Nice catch, smartyram  John Zern | 10/02/06
Argh!  zkiwi | 10/02/06
You can whine as you want.  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
Just in case...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Not quite. My brain cell's still there.  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
if you're going to be such a baby..  Monkey_MCSE | 10/03/06
Good call!  Linux User 147560 | 10/03/06
So according to you  zkiwi | 10/02/06
It will never be 1/100th as bad as it is now  TripleII | 10/02/06
Umm actually  Linux User 147560 | 10/02/06
My point  TripleII | 10/02/06
McAfee has a Point.  savatar | 10/02/06
Point is, time moves on and things change.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
Microsft however is...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
No they aren't  A.Sinic | 10/02/06
Wow!  Linux User 147560 | 10/02/06
Typical Linux Penguin babble....  rock06r | 10/03/06
You need to  Linux User 147560 | 10/03/06
Erm...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Again 1999 stuff....  rock06r | 10/03/06
They were still found to be a monopoly on appeal  zkiwi | 10/03/06
From Harvard law itself...  Linux User 147560 | 10/03/06
Do you think that means they can do nothing?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
Always?  Patrick Jones | 10/03/06
Could be done....  techboy_z | 10/03/06
Still don't see a problem.....  JoeMama_z | 10/02/06
Then you're blind  Fred Fredrickson | 10/03/06
no its not....  JoeMama_z | 10/03/06
In other news...  Spikey_Mike | 10/02/06
Yes, it does have. Maybe you have heard of tablets  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
Whether they NEED IT TO WORK  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Sorry, they developed the entire thing  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
You are still incapable  zkiwi | 10/02/06
No, you simply refuse to listen.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
So, the EU advice to Microsoft  zkiwi | 10/03/06
MS is right, they don't need to sell Vista in Europe.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
So they shouldn't have Keyboards either?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
Retard  zkiwi | 10/02/06
You obviously lack the ability to  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
So, what's your excuse then?  zkiwi | 10/03/06
You are the only one  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
hmm, no security is not a new market  NoThomas | 10/03/06
You're rehashing a failed argument  zkiwi | 10/03/06
Just NOT true... Mostly.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
This is a means to force the FTC & DOJ to do their job  BeGoneFool | 10/02/06
you're retarded...  JoeMama_z | 10/02/06
Once again ZDNet leaves out important details  PB_z | 10/02/06
Setting a precedent  whisperycat | 10/02/06
C'mon security vendors, please leave Microsoft alone!!!  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
Yeah right  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Hmm...maybe.  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
Oh?  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Yes, I know Microsoft enters the security market!  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
So...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Hmm... Nice comments!  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
Well...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
I'm not smoking. You're the one.  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
Well...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Wrong again.  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
Ok, so having reached this point  zkiwi | 10/02/06
zkiwi, I take it back  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
One has to stoop that low  zkiwi | 10/03/06
What ever you need to justify yourself...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
Whatever  zkiwi | 10/03/06
Partially Agree  TripleII | 10/02/06
Another whiner that doesn't have kernel access.  osreinstall | 10/02/06
Well...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Well Well  osreinstall | 10/02/06
So...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Get off the monopoly theme.  osreinstall | 10/02/06
So, you are denying  zkiwi | 10/02/06
No I am not but you are overlooking details.  osreinstall | 10/02/06
Assert away  zkiwi | 10/02/06
I shall  osreinstall | 10/02/06
Ok...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Go read what Rob has to say about the AV industry.  osreinstall | 10/02/06
Of course  zkiwi | 10/03/06
More like this.  osreinstall | 10/03/06
Once again, Windows x64 does NOT have a monopoly!  PB_z | 10/02/06
Not only that  osreinstall | 10/02/06
One word for you...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
You still don't get it.  osreinstall | 10/02/06
And...  zkiwi | 10/03/06
And you are full of BS.  osreinstall | 10/03/06
So  zkiwi | 10/03/06
Are you quoting words I never spoke?  osreinstall | 10/03/06
Or, to put it another way -  whisperycat | 10/02/06
Why is Trend Micro fine with the new Security panel?  neutralworks | 10/02/06
MS, code your OS so AV is irrelevant  Boot_Agnostic | 10/03/06
How come Trend Micro isn't crying?  jpr75_z | 10/03/06
Let us seperate fact from fiction..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
Hey McAfee! Don't worry, cuz....  techboy_z | 10/03/06
McAfee Bloated Crap  rjfvillarosa | 10/03/06
McAfee, Norton, etc,etc  jasprey | 10/03/06

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