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I Haven't Heard Such Reports
So I can't corroborate the claim that any passenger watched a flight being murdered.

It wouldn't be the first time. One woman was stabbed to death in New York right on the street with dozens of onlookers who took absolutely no action to intervene. Or the Rolling Stones' tragic 1970 concert in Altimont, CA.

Such complete abrogation of our personal responsibility is inexplicable. As a retired member of the US Armed Forces, I don't understand it.

I see it, however, as part of American character recently -- rebellion against authority and "anything goes, mind your own business, don't get involved."

Take sexual morals. How many people would tell someone if their lover or spouse was unfaithful? Very few. I know a young woman who found out her husband's infidelity from the gonorrhea that destroyed her uterus, destroyed her ovaries, and nearly killed her.

Somebody knew. Somebody kept "the code of silence." She nearly died and did lose her ability to bear children as a direct consequence.

Characters like Paladin in "Have Gun, Will Travel" are 1950s vintage. Now my wife and I see our celebrities are largely morally bankrupt anti-heroes.

We seem to have forgotten that we are all our brothers' and sisters' keeper.

As far as your comments, my company had a program manager on one of the flights. He was accompanied by his wife. They planned to spend time together in the evenings after his meetings.

I can't agree that they "deserved to die." I can't agree that any of the 9/11 victims "deserved to die." I can't imagine how the families and close friends of any of the 9/11 airline passengers would regard your comments.

I know that I myself find your perspective of innocent people "deserving to die" unspeakably repugnant and offensive.
Posted by: Cardhu   Posted on: 09/27/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Not My Problem  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 09/19/06
It's not terrorism. It's business.  HypnoToad | 09/19/06
I love freedom...  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 09/19/06
Lets not get too high and mighty...and get your head out of the sand...  eDrag0n | 09/20/06
Message has been deleted.  Reverend MacFellow | 09/20/06
Ooooops....big mistake newbie.  [ARB1D3_[00L3R | 09/20/06
Well said  starman_gary | 09/20/06
Me down and dirty  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 09/20/06
OMG are you married?  [ARB1D3_[00L3R | 09/22/06
If your a guy Yeah, if your a woman  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 09/26/06
Those people in the planes  Cardhu | 09/24/06
I heard reports that they watched an attendant  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 09/26/06
I Haven't Heard Such Reports  Cardhu | 09/27/06
PS This you doesn't like Apple either.  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 09/21/06
It is so *OUR* problem... even for Firefox/Linux users  Knorthern Knight | 09/19/06
not just linux, but every nix user is affected too...  nix_hed | 09/20/06
RE: Not My Problem  Protagonistic | 09/19/06
It's no big deal for me.  Grayson Peddie | 09/19/06
The porn sites are merely "patient zero".  Zogg | 09/19/06
Knock, knock  TimeBomb | 09/19/06
Sure you don't  tic swayback | 09/20/06
The clueless again make the stupid and igorant remarks, not surprized  HelpDesk Dave | 09/20/06
Didn't you know  Shelendrea | 09/20/06
MS Patch Priorities  mobrien_12@... | 09/19/06
Would you guys drop the DRM issue already?  PB_z | 09/19/06
It's a real complaint. Why should we?  buran | 09/19/06
Please think before you post.  Rbust0 | 09/19/06
no logical  Suicida| | 09/19/06
if it is in porn then is the christian science monitor next?  jimmurray1946 | 09/19/06
or we could all..  jakex3@... | 09/19/06
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doesn't say its only in 6  jimmurray1946 | 09/19/06
Ha! You are kidding me right?  Cayble | 09/19/06
And you must be kidding me...  Rbust0 | 09/19/06
To expand on that  Rick_K | 09/22/06
why, why, why  Suicida| | 09/19/06
Oh come on  ebrke | 09/20/06
re:Ha! You are kidding me right?  adr5@... | 09/20/06
wannabe browsers?  zoroaster | 09/20/06
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already have firefox, netscape, opera and ie 7 but...  jimmurray1946 | 09/19/06
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Cross infection  JDThompson | 09/20/06
Firefox blocks images...  nomorems | 09/19/06
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Porn sites exploit new IE flaw  Loverock Davidson | 09/19/06
uhhh....still 2 weeks and counting for MS to actually deliver their 'fix'.  nomorems | 09/19/06
There are no "safe sites"  Knorthern Knight | 09/19/06
Rowing across the Atlantic  swoopee | 09/19/06
Rowboat crossing the Atlantic?  bart001fr | 09/20/06
Sure there are  Loverock Davidson | 09/20/06
Naivetee is a wonderful world to live in!  Zeppo9191 | 09/20/06
Fill-in fisherman  percykidpester | 09/19/06
Who what?  Loverock Davidson | 09/20/06
Loverock is absolutely serious.  Zeppo9191 | 09/20/06
Same old boring sites?  tic swayback | 09/20/06
Same sites  Loverock Davidson | 09/20/06
Please educate us all, Loverock  Zeppo9191 | 09/20/06
Oh come on, that's easy.  cyanblade | 09/20/06
But what if you want something new?  tic swayback | 09/20/06
The flaw is in the site  Loverock Davidson | 09/20/06
One never knows what will pop up next  tic swayback | 09/20/06
Come on Tic  Rick_K | 09/22/06
Peer 2 Peer AVI (or so I've heard)  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 09/20/06
Finally caught on  TripleII | 09/20/06
I do?  Loverock Davidson | 09/20/06
Not biting  TripleII | 09/20/06
How do you come to the conclusion that MS is "ready to ship the patch"?  Zeppo9191 | 09/20/06
LOVEY LOVEY LOVEY  Shelendrea | 09/20/06
Shelly Shelly Shelly  Loverock Davidson | 09/20/06
I know what the article is about  Shelendrea | 09/20/06
He was being deliberately ironic  Cardhu | 09/24/06
Whatever helps you remain both Micro and Soft while viewing porn.  B.O.F.H. | 09/20/06
The Internet is for....  thookerov | 09/19/06
Just one of the many, many, many reasons  swoopee | 09/19/06
not surfing for porn won't protect you  zoroaster | 09/20/06
Firefox for porn surfing  bart001fr | 09/20/06
Use Firefox and Debian  jbengeii@... | 09/19/06
ENOUGH WITH FIREFOX!!  BroGnorik | 09/20/06
Yeah but Mozilla doesn't have "Zing"  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 09/21/06
This is a double whammy  Dr_T | 09/19/06
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 09/19/06
SO yo swear FF will work for that Granny Porn???  Cayble | 09/19/06
Granny porn better than no porn at all.  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 09/20/06
Huh?  Cardhu | 09/24/06
People are still using IE?  drew30319 | 09/19/06
Tell you what...  Cayble | 09/19/06
Showing your comprehension ability again Cayble?  mdsmedia | 09/20/06
Firefox from Jennifer Ann's site  bblackmoor@... | 09/19/06
It's on the right, under the Google Ads  Rbust0 | 09/19/06
What ads?  bblackmoor@... | 09/20/06
who  mww672@... | 09/21/06
I've tried Firefox...  Harly69 | 09/19/06
Maybe you should re-install  Suicida| | 09/19/06
Ostrich  DirtyDingus | 09/20/06
That "better" browser  chrisbedford | 09/20/06
Standards  phburks | 09/20/06
stay off the internet  rattatatt@... | 09/20/06
No!  Grayson Peddie | 09/20/06
Jennifer Ann  perryroyce@... | 09/20/06
I'm sincerely sorry about your loss.  Zeppo9191 | 09/20/06
No kidding  Shelendrea | 09/20/06
I'm sincerely sorry about your loss.  perryroyce@... | 09/20/06
Re: JenniferAnn.org  drew30319 | 09/20/06
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Why porn? And why IE?  bblackmoor@... | 09/19/06
Well  Suicida| | 09/19/06
Blatant article marketing  jiwhite | 09/20/06
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Seamonkey has it  cls@... | 09/21/06
Because FF crashes alot more than many applications  welcomeBeenie | 09/20/06
Firefox is solid  Mace68 | 09/20/06
something smells fishy  rattatatt@... | 09/20/06
LOVE your argument!  critic-at-arms | 09/22/06
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So, anyone who worked  russ553@... | 09/20/06
Message has been deleted.  roninpe@... | 09/20/06
What are you talking about  DarthRidiculous | 09/20/06
Not Just Irrelevant to Gerald's Original Post  Cardhu | 09/28/06
So those who use Macs can surf porn sites safely?  richardlai | 09/20/06
We can but...  tic swayback | 09/20/06
Does it leave your keyboard sticky?  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 09/20/06
Not that we care to bother.  Cardhu | 09/24/06
easy solution to the IE flaw  marellano | 09/27/06
Format and use any distro of Linux!!!  marellano | 09/27/06
Ah, yes. The Drive By Install, STILL not fixed...  BitTwiddler | 09/20/06
No problems hear  tfahs_orcim | 09/20/06
When will ZD just come out and state the truth?  Wm_Hayashi | 09/20/06
M$ Brainwashing  DarthRidiculous | 09/20/06
US Gov.  rattatatt@... | 09/20/06
because it's not their job  cls@... | 09/21/06
They have to be subtle or get sued  critic-at-arms | 09/22/06
Who uses IE to surf for PORN  voska | 09/20/06
RE: who uses IE to surf PORN  tfahs_orcim | 09/20/06
The problem is ...  Cardhu | 09/28/06
An Example From Today  Cardhu | 09/28/06
There is a simple solution  jolumoar | 09/20/06
Must use IE  wagnert | 09/20/06
Try IETab  KWierso | 09/20/06
Must? use IE  shimong@... | 10/05/06
How about a billion?  chuckgosh@... | 09/20/06
They know how, but why should they?  cls@... | 09/21/06
What a laugh  Shelendrea | 09/20/06
Strange  aensland | 09/20/06
What's even stranger  Shelendrea | 09/20/06
not you  aensland | 09/20/06
ie flaw  jameswest | 09/20/06
Let's not get too high and mighty the other way either  timoute | 09/20/06
Virus Scanner  BALTHOR | 09/20/06
Bad mouthing MS, firefox and opera next  alansaul@... | 09/20/06
No, sorry, these are exploits of MS code which aren't in FF  critic-at-arms | 09/22/06
What is this "porn" stuff anyway?  tomfoxxx2000@... | 09/20/06
I'm not quite clear myself  Cardhu | 09/24/06
Message has been deleted.  BFD | 09/20/06
Get Opera or Firefox, they are FREE!  [ARB1D3_[00L3R | 09/20/06
Latest Flaw  rattatatt@... | 09/20/06
Not my problem  Boot_Agnostic | 09/20/06
Blasted shell integrations  pj-xmesh | 09/20/06
What??  bigjohnt@... | 09/20/06
Not just Porn Sites  davidsarmstrong | 09/20/06
IE7 is not vulnerable  calso | 09/21/06
Are U Sure?  alansaul@... | 09/21/06
nobody knows  cls@... | 09/21/06
Accepting people as they are !!!!  AlienInfos | 09/21/06
Porn sells, even for ZDNet  sunfinch | 09/21/06
Just say no to porn  rollinshultz | 09/21/06
Just say no to the Internet...  BrookStone5 | 09/21/06
Fuel for the moral oral  Boot_Agnostic | 09/21/06
And Your Point Is?  Cardhu | 09/28/06
malware from porn sites  snafu-cf | 09/21/06

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