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Am I right in guessing the people screaming against MS in this case are the same ones that heckle microsoft everytime there is a security exploit. Hmm, seems a bit hypocritical to me.

Sounds like a good idea to make a common security center that is familiar to everyone (including my grandmother wink. Why does one need to be disabled in order for the other to survive? If I buy norton and get their product, my guess is I'd run their dashboard whether the MS one was available or not.
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We need robust and vibrant competition in the security area to have  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
We've had "vibrant competition" for years...  jinko | 09/19/06
So is the solution to remove competition??? If somebody can make it work  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
No, they can still compete...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Wow, great, we have to read TWO different bulitins for every security risk,  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
What "WE" DonnieBoy  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Try and at least get a clue before you post.  ShadeTree | 09/20/06
I smell another Lawsuit In The Making , I smell another Lawsuit Brewing .  Intellihence | 09/20/06
The only thing you smell ...  ShadeTree | 09/20/06
Just like IE.  nomorems | 09/19/06
Gee, and here I had FireFox as my default browser.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Gee, and if I want to buy Windows with just one browser of my choice??  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
Thjen buy something else... Have you ever heard  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
What nonsense ...  chekmarx | 09/20/06
McAffe & Symantec?  Mr Roboto | 09/20/06
What in the world are you going on about?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Of course, Don.  nomorems | 09/19/06
Clue for you...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Virus scanning and protection has been a separate product for years.  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
Ranting uselessly I see. tsk tsk...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
GM and Ford do not have monopolies, so this does not apply to them.  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
And it still is!  ShadeTree | 09/20/06
Just Stupid  warped1 | 09/20/06
MS should work it out that the responsibility is on the 3rd parties  Boot_Agnostic | 09/19/06
Question about that...  nix_hed | 09/20/06
It should be obvious that it ain't just Neelie Kroes that smells a rat here  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
Nothing at all...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
I will tust the market to decide what the best security product is. To do  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
Donnieboy, STOP LYING!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Everybody suffers from the security flaws in Windows. They use zombie  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
So your saying Symantech's (and others)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Well, if they did suck, Microsft would be able to compete straight up on  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
No-Ax I smell another lawsuit brewing .  Intellihence | 09/20/06
Microsoft does not care a whit about the consumer.  nomorems | 09/19/06
Say it a million times...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
And you can tell us a million times we will be safe with Microsoft.  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
Again, what "WE"?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
We = anybody with an IQ in double figures. And, zombie Windows computers  DonnieBoy | 09/20/06
This we of yours is disingenuous.  osreinstall | 09/19/06
OneCare is not bundled  A.Sinic | 09/20/06
Wouldn't it be nice...  opensourcepro | 09/19/06
Real competition is  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Too bad Microsoft does not compete and relies on their desktop OS monopoly.  nomorems | 09/19/06
Waaaaa, sorry you are wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Boy, No_Ax, you are pathetic.  nomorems | 09/19/06
Here we go again....  HiTowerUK | 09/20/06
Car analogies don't work..  Patrick Jones | 09/20/06
That sort of thinking sound good ...  phburks | 09/20/06
I wonder if Microsoft will tie this deeply to the OS ?  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 09/20/06
You're simply wrong...  jcg_z | 09/20/06
Simply put ...  phburks | 09/20/06
Oh give me a break!  voska | 09/20/06
re: Oh give me a break!  chekmarx | 09/20/06
Thats because dial-up networking is MS code  osreinstall | 09/20/06
re: Thats because dial-up networking is MS code  chekmarx | 09/20/06
You are the one not too bright.  osreinstall | 09/20/06
Hmmm, now let me see, who's OS is it?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Kindergarten Time in Axeyland ... again.  OButterball | 09/19/06
The EC???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Oh, yes, Axey, definitely a THICK layer of skin ...  OButterball | 09/19/06
Pay attention...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
That's a big wish  voska | 09/20/06
Ooooo, yes, those magic words:  OButterball | 09/20/06
Tread lightly No Ax  tic swayback | 09/19/06
Hey, that's called business.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
ROFL  Suicida| | 09/19/06
Sad  tic swayback | 09/20/06
I don't know if this is really an issue  voska | 09/20/06
Quality vs. convenience  tic swayback | 09/20/06
Great point now, but could this change...  bayny | 09/20/06
I worry though  tic swayback | 09/20/06
Just what product are they adding to Vista ...  ShadeTree | 09/20/06
As I understand it...  tic swayback | 09/20/06
OS Product; or OS  mighetto | 09/19/06
Really. I saw no mention  John Zern | 09/20/06
Oh, I don't know  rapson | 09/20/06
Well...  zkiwi | 09/20/06
Isn't the customer the focus?  Pinkerton | 09/20/06
The 'Customer is NOT the focus' !  woodwardt@... | 09/20/06
That can be turned off  osreinstall | 09/20/06
It's a pain  Pinkerton | 09/20/06
No it isn't  osreinstall | 09/20/06
New Features Should Work, Period  Pinkerton | 09/21/06
Don't worry about it  osreinstall | 09/21/06
Scare-mongering...  jinko | 09/19/06
Where were the complaints about XPSP2?  PB_z | 09/19/06
Because Microsoft now has onecare  georgeou | 09/19/06
Microsoft shills only care about Microsoft profits.  nomorems | 09/19/06
And ranting fools rant regardless of  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
That's OK by me.  nomorems | 09/19/06
Nobody wants to read and acknowledge two different security reports for  DonnieBoy | 09/19/06
Gee, then don't install a second one.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Funny, I hate to tell you but 1+1 does not equal 3 (question marks).  nomorems | 09/19/06
And, if you do not want two running, your only option is MS. It does not  DonnieBoy | 09/20/06
Turn the Microsoft on off then  voska | 09/20/06
There is no way to automatically disable the MS security manager, it must  DonnieBoy | 09/20/06
Good!!!  osreinstall | 09/20/06
You tagged him correctly  John Zern | 09/20/06
What a bunch of horse **** .  Intellihence | 09/20/06
You really are clueless.  osreinstall | 09/20/06
That is a good thing.  osreinstall | 09/20/06
So you say MS should mimic BSD .  Intellihence | 09/20/06
In this respect, Yes.  osreinstall | 09/20/06
Oh and at work  voska | 09/20/06
DonnieBoy and you trust Symantic  Michael L Hereid Sr | 09/20/06
Windows Security Center...  nix_hed | 09/20/06
One Care has nothing to do with SC  omdguy | 09/20/06
This Vista is MORE like property in the Las Vegas strip  michael_t | 09/19/06
The part about missing drivers ...  ShadeTree | 09/20/06
I am a UNIX guy; Vista experience looks eerily like a new linux distro  michael_t | 09/20/06
You think ?  Intellihence | 09/20/06
meaning it's more like a freak show or a road-side attraction  michael_t | 09/20/06
Who cares  DarthRidiculous | 09/19/06
Reasons why Microsoft is right (Symantec playing dirty)  zzz1234567890 | 09/19/06
And...  zkiwi | 09/20/06
Microsoft has the right to define Windows  zzz1234567890 | 09/20/06
It's not me  zkiwi | 09/20/06
That's just pathetic  bitfuzzy | 09/20/06
Rivals skirmish with Microsoft over Vista security  Loverock Davidson | 09/19/06
It's not a FEATURE any more than IE is a feature. It's a PRODUCT.  nomorems | 09/19/06
Buwahahahah... Since when  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/19/06
Others see the obvious lock in with Microsoft security products.  nomorems | 09/19/06
How many times are you going cut and paste this?  voska | 09/20/06
Well...  zkiwi | 09/20/06
Yes it is false  voska | 09/21/06
Nothing was ever proven wrong VOSKA .  Intellihence | 09/20/06
Yes it was  voska | 09/21/06
AV companies are the worst products  osreinstall | 09/20/06
and still waiting, and waiting, and waiting,...  not of this world | 09/20/06
10 reasons why I will never again use Symantec antivirus  Herb3 | 09/19/06
Try corporate  Suicida| | 09/19/06
Good Choice  John Zern | 09/20/06
norton software  rick.cresswell | 11/03/06
Hmm, i smell lies  Suicida| | 09/19/06
Never statisfied...  IT_Critic | 09/20/06
um...  nix_hed | 09/20/06
Ridiculous statements  the_seb | 09/20/06
Too Much on the MS Plate  jpr75_z | 09/20/06
Well, Microsoft is interested in security.  Anton Philidor | 09/20/06
Dead Last?  ITCowboy | 09/20/06
Complicated issue.  Anton Philidor | 09/20/06
Total hogwash...  Mike Cox | 09/20/06
Why not.....  ITCowboy | 09/20/06
Windows +Security = Oxymoron  Shelendrea | 09/20/06
I agree..sort of.  Hawk318 | 09/20/06
Where was the whining in XPSP2 when SC was introduced?  omdguy | 09/20/06
MICROSUCKS has no problem with violation of law to increase profits  BeGoneFool | 09/20/06
BeGoneFool where does adding a security Center  Michael L Hereid Sr | 09/20/06
It does it like this...  zkiwi | 09/20/06
Security is actually an OS aspect.  B.O.F.H. | 09/20/06
Why wouldn't security be  Boot_Agnostic | 09/21/06
What I don't understand, Michael  John Zern | 09/20/06
Oh damn you fool .  Intellihence | 09/20/06
Catch 22 then!  Spikey_Mike | 09/21/06
Wait a minute!  joe6pack_z | 09/20/06
Oh, and better yet!!!  joe6pack_z | 09/20/06
Just think twice  hdn.de | 09/22/06
And for you wishing bad on others  Boot_Agnostic | 09/21/06
How secure would it be if an installer could just turn it off?  FatherJ | 09/21/06
... and more so!  hdn.de | 09/22/06
Obsolete??  craptacular@... | 09/22/06
Sockets and plugs  craptacular@... | 09/22/06
This is not the first time microsoft entered security  thomas_rife_z | 10/01/06

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