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To make it as short as possible.
CobraA1 wrote: "While I agree secrecy is bad, I don't think there's an "International Mafia" behind it."

You just do not want to think ...



Government claims that the WTC (three steel framed skyscrapers) collapse was due primarily to the enormous fire.

The FEMA: ?... Unfortunately, the destruction of flimsy core partitions deprived the stairwells and (elevator) shafts of their enclosure turning them into chimneys and the towers into stacks helping the fires to spread heating bigger floor areas, of which thermal expansion faster collapsed the towers ....?


But firemen who climbed up to the top of the Twins said that they saw only small peaces of the fire and NO falling ceiling panes and whatsoever of what the FEMA claimed.

You can hear those firemen?s conversations if you will watch:

Painful Deceptions DVD:
http://www.erichufschmid.net/ThePainfulDeceptionsVideo.html

Painful Deceptions Video:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/infowars-shop/padeanofse11.html



More links:
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/WTC7Fairytale.htm



Conclusion 1: the WTC did not collapse due to the fire.

If not the fire then what?

Larry Silverstein admitted that the collapse was due to a controlled demolition.
http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/FDNY.htm

It means that they set explosions into the buildings BEFORE 9/11.

Larry Silverstein bought the collapsed buildings right before 9/11.

It means that Larry Silverstein bought the buildings because HE KNEW that they must be destroyed on 9/11.

And who if not the owner - Larry Silverstein, ORDERED the security to bring escaping people back in the Twins?

It means the REAL PURPOSE of the controlled demolition is TO KILL AS MUCH AMERICANS AS POSSIBLE. Why? To make money and gain power on the war.

It means he was/is a friend of 9/11 masterminds and Osama bin Laden has nothing to do with.

Then who has?

It?s easy to count ? those who covering up this crime ? the government and those who elected it: Illuminati, Skull and Bones, ? Israel.

There are tons of the links.

E.g.:

Martial Law 9/11: Rise Of The Police State:
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/march2005/040305martiallaw.htm

VHS/DVD:
http://www.store.yahoo.com/infowars-shop/nemalaw9riof.html


David Icke
http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/

THE ILLUMINATI DVD - Featuring DAVID ICKE
A Feature Length Documentary Exposing
The Global Network of Secret Societies & Royal Satanists
http://www.enigmacyberstore.com/icke.htm

David Icke's Lecture on the Illuminati
http://www.freedomfiles.org/davidtv/lecture/



Eric Hufschmid - truth doesn't need a sword or laws to protect it:
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Conspiracies12.htm


Masonic and Illuminati symbols
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo.htm



Conclusion 2: the government and those who elected it: Illuminati, Skull and Bones, ... Israel and Bill Gates ? must be sued for the crimes against humanity.


Conclusion 3: the Americans are brainwashed well and act like the government?s zombies.
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Why did it take 9/11 for people to realize that in theory  Laff | 09/08/06
Yes, but you aren't the only consideration  Spoon Jabber | 09/08/06
True but I've thought that the way things were i.e. laws  Laff | 09/08/06
Re: Bush's "Secrecy Acts"  OpaLocka90 | 09/08/06
Congress gets the mushroom treatment too  Nigel Johnstone | 09/08/06
Go away Big Brother!  bjornafreeman@... | 09/08/06
Essentially what you are proposing  Linux User 147560 | 09/08/06
Sounds like Switzerland to me  voska | 09/08/06
Could be, but things have changed over the years  Spoon Jabber | 09/11/06
A balance must be struck  JDThompson | 09/08/06
I'm confused  bjornafreeman@... | 09/08/06
Not confused at all  Spoon Jabber | 09/11/06
In theory, and in a half-perfect world, I'd agree with you.  HypnoToad | 09/09/06
big brother vs private compassion  bjornafreeman@... | 09/09/06
Go Away Big Brother!  Bratz | 09/10/06
The TIA project isn't gone  JDThompson | 09/08/06
Wrong, Mr. Schmidt.  Update victim | 09/08/06
Simple question that many cannot answer:  Vily Clay | 09/08/06
What are you talking about?  bjornafreeman@... | 09/08/06
Who rules the U.S.? Americans or Israel? (NT)  Vily Clay | 09/08/06
USA has a bad Mossad infection  Nigel Johnstone | 09/09/06
NOBODY can be a US president if he is not controlled by Israel.  Vily Clay | 09/09/06
Jewish != Israeli  Nigel Johnstone | 09/10/06
Try to judge things you know for sure. Try to watch the movies first.  Vily Clay | 09/10/06
Not really!  ShadeTree | 09/11/06
Israel ALWAYS wants war, not peace, closed eyes do not see it.  Vily Clay | 09/11/06
Vily = Crazy Bedbug.  osreinstall | 09/10/06
Using logic on Vily is a waste of time  Spoon Jabber | 09/11/06
Guys, try to use your head, not butt. You NEVER have facts/arguments ...  Vily Clay | 09/11/06
yes and no  CobraA1 | 09/11/06
To make it as short as possible.  Vily Clay | 09/12/06
Your posts are never short and the logic is always impossible.  osreinstall | 09/12/06
Your logic is too small to handle a big picture.  Vily Clay | 09/12/06
Like you have a handle on it?  osreinstall | 09/12/06
It's amazing ...  Vily Clay | 09/14/06
Vily, does your head hurt?  Spoon Jabber | 09/14/06
Vily, the burden of proof is on you.  osreinstall | 09/14/06
Let?s make it simple:  Vily Clay | 09/14/06
The government can be stopped, BUT,  foxie9876 | 09/09/06
Get a clue!  bjornafreeman@... | 09/09/06
Okay, so big brother is bad. Tell us how big corporation is good?  HypnoToad | 09/09/06
Right-On foxie  wmlundine | 09/11/06
Wrong-on lundine! What's up?!! Gas = $2.39/gal  Spoon Jabber | 09/13/06
Spoon Jabber, you are completely wrong!  ciociario | 09/21/06
Food for thought...  Linux User 147560 | 09/09/06
I want to know  nikitac | 09/11/06
Can't stomach that "food"  Spoon Jabber | 09/11/06
I think dead people would be better  voska | 09/11/06
Hillarious Dude  ShadeTree | 09/11/06
While your at it you should ...  ShadeTree | 09/11/06
sad state of affairs  nikitac | 09/11/06
Rather vague  Spoon Jabber | 09/11/06
Yes and no.....  Laff | 09/11/06
Maybe true....  Spoon Jabber | 09/11/06
Now wait a miniute just because you can do something  Laff | 09/11/06
You're right, but my point is...  Spoon Jabber | 09/12/06
You might want to ask some of those people in secret prisons  voska | 09/11/06
Great...NOT A CHRISTIAN and try not to pay taxes:)  Laff | 09/11/06
Last time I checked ...  ShadeTree | 09/11/06
So we only offer justice to US citizens.....  Laff | 09/11/06
Yes, the Constitution is all that's relevent....  Spoon Jabber | 09/12/06
Now Jim, wouldn't be wrong of ...  ShadeTree | 09/12/06
You'd be shocked at to what I am capable of doing to an enemy.  Laff | 09/12/06
Jim, while you're waiting for proof...  Spoon Jabber | 09/12/06
Spoon...thats a risk I'm willing to take. For the difference  Laff | 09/12/06
That's cool, not me though  Spoon Jabber | 09/13/06
Oh I want to live....but as a man and with honor.  Laff | 09/13/06
I see your point, question  Spoon Jabber | 09/13/06
Im no pacifist my friend...nope not even close there.  Laff | 09/13/06
JOIN THE WORLD WIDE STRIKE ON 9/11  the_webninja@... | 09/08/07

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