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Right now I'm sure I have dz. of encrypted files on my system all of them from work, unlike the people in our gov. that bring work home unencrypted, I encrypt all of the files I bring home that are important to my Co. I have also burned these files to CD, DVD etc for years but do you relay think I have all the keys fore these anymore.. some, but not most. Now if I don't give the keys to all these files to the police does that mean I am hiding something?

What about the 5th (U.S.A. issue) even if I did do something bad, wrong, not right etc, even if not the crime I'm accused of, wouldn't me giving the keys up violate my 5th amendment right as the information would be only obtainable by me?

Ok, so lets say the laws now says that if I don't give the keys up then I MUST be guilty. What if you are wrong?? I will not even go into how many people are in prison only to find out years later the it was not them.. or the whole death-row thing

I have software on my computers that will let me encrypt a file in an encrypted file and with the first key you will still never be able to prove that there is still an encrypted file in it, how would you handle that??

To me if some body had enough proof that that I did do something wrong that the court would force me to give up MY keys I would have to believe that they have enough information to bring me to trial, if not I think they are just fishing!

Finally, if I am convicted of a grave crime, yes I should forfeit all my rights, If I am accused of a grave crime this is when you will find you will need to have access to ALL your rights else just legalize lynching again!

Zed has spoken.
Posted by: zedman2006   Posted on: 08/15/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Wow is this BS or what  BXLE | 08/15/06
You revoke and regenerate  John L. Ries | 08/16/06
Pointless  anthony_hunt | 08/15/06
In conjunction with a warrant issued on probable cause?  John L. Ries | 08/15/06
What if?  zedman2006 | 08/15/06
What does that have to do with...  John L. Ries | 08/16/06
everything  shraven | 08/16/06
I'm not in favor of 24/7 surveillance either  John L. Ries | 08/16/06
I should mention...  John L. Ries | 08/16/06
OK, as you requested:  shraven | 08/16/06
I'll buy that  John L. Ries | 08/16/06
Except when your the one  CzarCar | 08/15/06
you position is so clue less  not of this world | 08/15/06
Your comment is so clueless  andrewjg | 08/15/06
There are absolute rights. 3 of them.  People | 08/15/06
not just 3  mflenniken | 08/15/06
Funny isn't it?  Shelendrea | 08/15/06
That's easy..  Patrick Jones | 08/15/06
Better get your gun ready...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/06
That is not funny!  Patrick Jones | 08/15/06
Wasn't meant to be funny, just accurate.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/06
You never know..  Patrick Jones | 08/15/06
As W.C. Fields said...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/06
lighten up  shraven | 08/16/06
Not cool dude, not cool  Shelendrea | 08/16/06
Everyone's rights are more important than any child.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/06
It works both ways, you know...  John Zern | 08/15/06
No, it doesn't.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/06
Re: It works both ways,..  zedman2006 | 08/15/06
Edit:  zedman2006 | 08/15/06
A word of advice  Shelendrea | 08/16/06
Ummm Shel...  Linux User 147560 | 08/15/06
Not being a nit at all  Shelendrea | 08/15/06
My Child or Not - Privacy is a Right  Strong_Enough | 08/15/06
If they have the right to investigate your PC...  Trebor2510 | 08/16/06
way wrong focus  shraven | 08/16/06
You asked for it  Shelendrea | 08/16/06
Nope.....not at all.  Laff | 08/15/06
Well said.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/06
Until the police make a mistake....  el1jones | 08/15/06
EXACTLY  Strong_Enough | 08/15/06
I can understand all of your points  Shelendrea | 08/16/06
you first  shraven | 08/16/06
We have the 5th amendment  Roger Ramjet | 08/15/06
Yes....  BXLE | 08/15/06
Fortunately, we don't  magcomment | 08/15/06
Not at all  Roger Ramjet | 08/15/06
THANK YOU (nt)  zedman2006 | 08/15/06
Same thought I had. But even more to the point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/06
Imagine the impact on DRM.  B.O.F.H. | 08/15/06
Same as any encryption.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/15/06
Already an exemption  Edward Meyers | 08/15/06
DRM has other applications besides Copywrite protection.  B.O.F.H. | 08/15/06
Not sure what your point is  Edward Meyers | 08/16/06
This is nothing compared to..  Spicoli the Cannoli | 08/15/06
Well we are the world police right? (nt)  zedman2006 | 08/15/06
Criminals are setting an example  milal@... | 08/15/06
Encryption Keys  Dr_Zinj | 08/16/06
Sensationalism  shraven | 08/16/06
Heard and Agreed  Strong_Enough | 08/16/06
who uses encryption more?  schwana | 08/16/06

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