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Finally MS does something right...
... yet the self appointed "experts" on this site still cry foul.

What is it that you would like MS to do then? If they leave holes then you all cry about them when we hear another security flaw has been exposed. Yet when MS tries to close the backdoors then the haters still cry foul, citing anti-competition rubbish. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. It's like saying to a company that they shouldn't make their buildings more secure because it will put the security company that's been contracted to provide security guards, out of business.

Basing one's entire business model on fixing or extending the functionality of another product, which you have no control over, is always a risky venture. These security companies should have thought about those things and go cry elsewhere. Especially Symantec, who should stick their rubbish, I mean software, somewhere else.

This is the only way to go about increasing security. Any backholes for the "good guys" will be a serious issue. How do you differentiate between the good guys and the bad guys. And even if you could it will take one disgruntled employee from the good guys to release the "good guy" authentication algorithm to the other side. There is no anti-competition argument here. MS is simply implementing features which should have existed in the operating system in the first place.
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We're supposed to trust M$ with our system's security...WHY???!!!???  Mr. Roboto | 08/10/06
Nope  TonyMcS | 08/10/06
We're supposed to believe your sarcasm... WHY???!!!???  Mr. Roboto | 08/10/06
Yeeeea.... huh?!?  bitfuzzy | 08/10/06
More laughter  Zeppo9191 | 08/11/06
how come?  mypl8s4u2 | 08/11/06
re:We're supposed to trust M$ with our system's security...WHY???!!!???  mikeholli | 08/11/06
Ha... Ha... Ha...  aallord | 08/11/06
I would like to make a bet  mypl8s4u2 | 08/11/06
are you serious????  balaknair | 08/12/06
Symantec used to be good...  HypnoToad | 08/12/06
When did Bill Gates take over Symantec  Endoscopy | 08/12/06
OS/2+Microsoft?  MainFrame2006 | 08/12/06
re:We're supposed to trust M$ with our system's security...WHY???!!!???  mikeholli | 08/11/06
Keeping everybody out of the kernal is good.  MacGeek2121 | 08/11/06
Nice try but a clear miss  Cayble | 08/11/06
THen why have ANY MS products at all  BCF1968 | 08/13/06
Big sursprise  DarthRidiculous | 08/10/06
Linux under Windows  mighetto | 08/10/06
Finally MS does something right...  the_seb | 08/11/06
good guys are in fact leeches!  joemartn | 08/11/06
Any backholes for the "good guys" will be...  msolgeek | 08/11/06
When you have...  the_seb | 08/11/06
Okay...  msolgeek | 08/11/06
Backup to MSOLGEEK  mypl8s4u2 | 08/11/06
there comes a point  mypl8s4u2 | 08/11/06
I think the software makers have a point.  clockmendergb@... | 08/11/06
Why not Windows UNDER Linux  rdelaplaza | 08/11/06
windows under linux  MainFrame2006 | 08/12/06
Xandros beats Linspire  alicia@... | 08/14/06
Not likey  John Zern | 08/11/06
Use Linux  alicia@... | 08/14/06
From what I understand, PatchGuard would have stopped the Sony rootkit.  PB_z | 08/10/06
I agree.  Grayson Peddie | 08/10/06
is this just blowing smoke?  mypl8s4u2 | 08/11/06
What if SONY had asked for an "exception"?  Knorthern Knight | 08/10/06
Didn't Sony get an exception from the antivirus companies?  tic swayback | 08/11/06
that's already built in ... no need for an exception or a rootkit per se...  LilBambi_z | 08/11/06
Linux user supports MS on this one.  Knorthern Knight | 08/10/06
maybe you should look at this:  mypl8s4u2 | 08/11/06
Paul Murphy is the biggest liar out there  zzz1234567890 | 08/12/06
Linux user supports MS on this one.  Knorthern Knight | 08/10/06
Don't some good guys use same malware entry points  Boot_Agnostic | 08/11/06
So what Symantec is saying...  wolf_z | 08/11/06
Symantec can't seem to make up their mind  the_seb | 08/11/06
Users need to be worried about this also.  Teyecoon | 08/16/06
I think it will open more doors  mypl8s4u2 | 08/11/06
Windows defense handcuffs good guys  Loverock Davidson | 08/11/06
Other good quotes in the story  Zeppo9191 | 08/11/06
Oh , what the heck loverock,,,  Intellihence | 08/11/06
Insecure by design  Chad_z | 08/11/06
Insecure by design  PragmatistCoder | 08/11/06
Not exactly true  Chad_z | 08/11/06
Ignorance is bliss  RocketEater | 08/11/06
I have worked there...  msolgeek | 08/11/06
Huh?  RocketEater | 08/11/06
Church of the Painful OS - Todays message "Collateral Casualties"  Reverend MacFellow | 08/11/06
Rap just found Religion  clockmendergb@... | 08/11/06
What they are talking about here are Rootkits, right?  BitTwiddler | 08/11/06
Looking forward to seeing these new tools in action  michael_t | 08/11/06
Going to the OTHER extreme is equally WRONG and simplistic  michael_t | 08/11/06
EXACTLY  mypl8s4u2 | 08/11/06
It is extremely HARD to RETROFIT good design in something already built  michael_t | 08/12/06
Windows users get ready for a new porking  Chad_z | 08/11/06
except they don't realise they are being porked  barsteward | 08/12/06
You can't ever sit back and just focus on working.  IronCladChicken | 08/15/06
TROUBLESHOOTING!  BALTHOR | 08/11/06
Oooooo.  John Zern | 08/11/06
Unsurprizingly, unlike serious OSs, windows is incorrigible happy  michael_t | 08/11/06
Suffering builds character!  Reverend MacFellow | 08/11/06
brother, you should know that the suffering does not help the  michael_t | 08/11/06
Finally  Deacon336 | 08/11/06
if they have to  mypl8s4u2 | 08/11/06
The INsecure by NOdesign lead to the 10s of billions $$$ paraeconomy  michael_t | 08/11/06
Bill G evidently took a page from Bush Jr  Teyecoon | 08/16/06
welcome to the real world of proprietary architecture. M$ can put all the  wessonjoe | 08/11/06
Let it die  mypl8s4u2 | 08/11/06
Check and Mate.. Redmond will now Hurt your wallet  john.gruber@... | 08/11/06
Microsoft won't hurt my wallet  alicia@... | 08/14/06
NOT to worry...  realitycheck101 | 08/12/06
Maybe I should have expanded  the_seb | 08/14/06
Everything2Everybody  alicia@... | 08/14/06
The Dam Is Still Leaking....................  ninja@... | 08/16/06

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