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WHY autoupdating IE6 to IE7 is something not desired?
Because the only way Microsoft will ever be able to make IE noticably more secure is by backing out their 10 year long experiment with desktop-browser integration, remove the ability of the same component to both access untrusted data AND operate outside an _application level_ sandbox, and incidentally break a huge number of third party applications that depend on this functionality.

That is the standard behaviour of every other "non-toy" browser and mail reader, whether open source (like Firefox) or proprietary (like Opera), and it's an absolute unconditional minimum standard that any software that deals with untrusted files must meet. And Microsoft has so much face invested in their ability to ignore this fundamental principle that they will never be able to ship a secure browser.

So we can't trust IE, and we can't trust Microsoft not to slip something into IE7 to break their competitors, so there's no downside to staying withthe devil you know.

After all, you're only using it to run Windows Update, right? You're not actually reading this in IE, I hope...
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A terrible dilemma!!  NonZealot | 07/26/06
I wouldn't begin to panic unless...  bportlock | 07/26/06
don't worry about  michael_t | 07/26/06
Web Dev support for IE6  Spats30 | 07/27/06
*YAWN* Use Firefox  itanalyst | 07/26/06
READ THE BLOODY ARTICLE  moonchacha | 07/26/06
How about -  nomorems | 07/26/06
Steve Ballmer? Is That You?  itanalyst | 07/26/06
i think..  Scott W | 07/26/06
But what about...  TheOldBloke | 07/30/06
If IE7 is INDEED a better browser in terms of security and functionality  michael_t | 07/26/06
WHY autoupdating IE6 to IE7 is something not desired?  Resuna | 07/26/06
IE7+  moonchacha | 07/26/06
Untrustworthy none the less  Suicida| | 07/27/06
But these are problems of people who "desire" MS s/w regardless ..  michael_t | 07/26/06
Internet Explorer 7  jasprey | 07/26/06
We gee..  nomorems | 07/26/06
Why not update?  jmorgus@... | 07/26/06
The pain for all that is generated by "standardizing" around  michael_t | 07/26/06
Wha?  lfugate@... | 07/26/06
Wha?  nomorems | 07/26/06
Because it BREAKS THINGS...  "Mysterious | 07/26/06
Things that should be broken...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/26/06
This presumes  zkiwi | 07/26/06
I think MS needs to write better code  nomorems | 07/26/06
MS users should HAD ALREADY DEMANDED MS to produce decent code  michael_t | 07/26/06
I guess people should had not spoiled MS so much  michael_t | 07/26/06
One reason WHY auto-updating is not wanted  Mr_Dave | 07/26/06
IE 7  jstokes@... | 07/26/06
Nice expansion of the 'everyones crazy but MS supporters' tactic.  nomorems | 07/26/06
Priceless  Chad_z | 07/27/06
The job's not done until Applets won't run  mighetto | 07/26/06
do your homework  einsteintech | 07/26/06
Sorry, Java is also full of holes.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/26/06
Sorry, Java is also full of holes.  IronCladChicken | 07/27/06
It doesn't explain it but then ...  ShadeTree | 07/27/06
IE7 is likely great but too late for this user  Prognosticator | 07/26/06
Back to IE..Why not.  jasprey | 07/26/06
Tried Fire Fox..DON'T LIKE IT  IronCladChicken | 07/27/06
Have you tried IE7?  Wolfie2K3 | 07/26/06
FireFox  elainecleo | 07/26/06
IE is faster & 7 faster yet but MY main  The Reverend | 07/26/06
Faster IE??  Monkey_MCSE | 07/27/06
another M$ criminal action  Linux Geek | 07/26/06
Is there a browser for Linux?  Prognosticator | 07/26/06
Yeah it was called Netscape  Edward Meyers | 07/26/06
Excellent!  Prognosticator | 07/26/06
I'll save you the trip  Edward Meyers | 07/26/06
Books on Windows  jasprey | 07/26/06
And they include  Edward Meyers | 07/26/06
Is there a cure for ignorance?  ChESteve | 07/26/06
Dude.. You must be new in these parts..  Wolfie2K3 | 07/26/06
You got it.  nomorems | 07/26/06
Are you SURE you want to look that silly?  "Mysterious | 07/26/06
Re: another M$ criminal action  liqour43@... | 07/26/06
I will provide an intelligent response  adamshw@... | 07/26/06
Thoughts...  techguyjames@... | 07/26/06
Same number of clicks for Windows, Mac, Linux and many others.  nomorems | 07/26/06
good job of sending everyone AWAY from Linux  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/26/06
it's OK... when they read your postings they rush back to linux ... happy  michael_t | 07/26/06
Yup - keep his illussion going...  nomorems | 07/26/06
ALL those people?  TonyMcS | 07/26/06
You Linux box spares you  TonyMcS | 07/26/06
Move along. Nothing to see here...  John Zern | 07/26/06
My trust in Microsoft is LONG gone  999ad@... | 07/26/06
Then Don't Use It Then  itanalyst | 07/26/06
Understood . . .  999ad@... | 07/26/06
Mine never left (but it was never here either .... happy ! )  michael_t | 07/26/06
I'm not upgrading to IE7 until they completely break IE6  Resuna | 07/26/06
Apps use IE Internally  The-Bytemaster | 07/26/06
I also WILL NOT BE GOING TO IE7 willl stay with6....  carlsf@... | 07/26/06
Untill...  Sysop1984 | 07/27/06
People still use IE?  lostinlodos | 07/26/06
Re... People still use IE  qquidd@... | 07/26/06
Your figures are off  Edward Meyers | 07/26/06
well, you know  linuxoverwindows | 07/26/06
"Only"?  StorageGuru | 07/26/06
Except it loss 15 plus percent instead of gained  Edward Meyers | 07/26/06
What is the impact?  StorageGuru | 07/26/06
They lost Lock-In  Edward Meyers | 07/26/06
Lost lock-in?  NonZealot | 07/26/06
Explain how lock in works with the opensource  Edward Meyers | 07/26/06
Lock-in of other browsers a minor point  NonZealot | 07/26/06
Only falling to 80 shows it works  Edward Meyers | 07/26/06
Markets take time  NonZealot | 07/26/06
So you agree bundling works  Edward Meyers | 07/27/06
I doubt it...  Monkey_MCSE | 07/27/06
Edward: read it again  NonZealot | 07/27/06
I guarantee GM would have 80% of the auto market  nomorems | 07/26/06
Firefox pentration numbers  TripleII | 07/26/06
People still use IE?  lostinlodos | 07/27/06
Followed by Russia, Japan, and Finland  IronCladChicken | 07/27/06
They do, but  lostinlodos | 07/27/06
ridiculous numbers  Sepherant | 07/27/06
And in other news  DarthRidiculous | 07/26/06
IE?  hanni_ali | 07/26/06
Yup.  nomorems | 07/26/06
History  lostinlodos | 07/27/06
Pushy Microsoft  Bonus | 07/26/06
IE7b3 is great; have no fear re b4.  ChessCanoe | 07/26/06
IE7 SUCKS!!!!  David Jelks | 07/26/06
Waiting for 7.2  denisdubois | 07/26/06
And your point is...?  Wolfie2K3 | 07/26/06
Re: And your point is...  qquidd@... | 07/27/06
silly generalizations  Sepherant | 07/27/06
IE7  vinc_1969 | 07/26/06
IE loads too slowly? LOL  The Reverend | 07/26/06
i think you're blowing smoke  Monkey_MCSE | 07/27/06
IE7 Crashes a lot unless set to low security...  sargon_z | 07/26/06
in which case everything else crashes? Yes, that's standard  michael_t | 07/26/06
Par of the MS product course....  carlsf@... | 07/26/06
A developer's view  dbrimlow | 07/26/06
ok Help me out here please  grayfrier | 07/26/06
Let me see if I can translate...  Wolfie2K3 | 07/26/06
Re:Ok, help me out here  Norwalker | 07/26/06
Let me get this straight  Shelendrea | 07/26/06
Media Center  sfeehrer@... | 07/26/06
Talk about dumb  KrazyGuy | 07/26/06
A lesson in web design and IE  dbrimlow | 07/26/06
Typical M$ problem  DarthRidiculous | 07/26/06
dbrimlow: Perfect 10/10  999ad@... | 07/27/06
IE specific CSS hacks  J242 | 08/06/06
RE: Talk about dumb  shilsdon | 07/27/06
the old days.....  gfansher | 07/28/06
I've always been in awe at what defective products MICROSUCKS ships  realitycheck101 | 07/31/06
Gotta wonder  Shelendrea | 07/26/06
MS only makes fix available for WGA users  AldoWatts | 07/26/06
Not sure that literacy is a ...  Langalibalene | 07/26/06
Hmmm....  Langalibalene | 07/26/06
"disdain" can be used as a noun or a transitive verb  michael_t | 07/26/06
Not sure that literacy  Shelendrea | 07/26/06
"with disdain" a verb? not really.  michael_t | 07/26/06
hey, never said english was a strong suit of mine =-)  Shelendrea | 07/27/06
disdain  hotrodgranny | 08/01/06
just wait  Shelendrea | 08/01/06
Well, I for one think IE7 is pretty darn great.  The Reverend | 07/26/06
Ok, but...  shilsdon | 07/27/06
IE who? What's that? (nt, non required)  Linux_Fanboy | 07/26/06
Wow. Will you look at that.  John Zern | 07/26/06
Wow. Will you look at that.  daney | 07/26/06
A whole world  TonyMcS | 07/26/06
Ouch!  Boot_Agnostic | 07/27/06
Wow  Shelendrea | 07/27/06
I'm curious...  shilsdon | 07/27/06
nail on the head!  Reverend MacFellow | 07/27/06
IE 7 beta's.............nix it!  dadilus1@... | 07/26/06
IE 7 doesn't work with my online bank  KITTY44 | 07/26/06
Published workaround.  J242 | 08/06/06
does not work with your online bank  amj2006 | 07/27/06
IE7 without rhetoric?  flukejh06 | 07/27/06
Not as far as I know  shilsdon | 07/27/06
ie7 breaks some websites, even MS ones  ayachem | 07/27/06
re: ie7 breaks some websites  psychodave | 07/30/06
fiddlertool  J242 | 08/06/06
IE 7 Fails to work with Lotus Notes  derrikmo@... | 07/27/06
It does work  mikeybrass | 07/28/06
We use Lotus Notes at our company  Boot_Agnostic | 07/28/06
IE 7  TankerDriver | 07/27/06
IE7  davkel1 | 07/27/06
IE& Beta Pros and Cons  ladyemberrose | 07/27/06
Pushing crap!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 07/27/06
Welcome to the church of the painful OS!  Reverend MacFellow | 07/27/06
IE 7  rcpatter35@... | 07/27/06
IE7  jdyagi | 07/27/06
IE7  mrholtsr@... | 07/28/06
I pity those with MS blinders  dbrimlow | 07/28/06
Different choices for different needs...  J242 | 08/06/06
How soon they forget  reynolds@... | 07/28/06
screaming sp2 flashbacks  favs65@... | 07/28/06
IE 7  biglittle@... | 07/29/06
Seems like they're going a bit too far  S.Howard-Sarin ZDNet Moderator | 07/29/06
IE 7 is it really ready 2 use?  AB8RU | 09/06/06
IE 7  shortstp | 12/26/06
High Priority?  viruser ZDNet Moderator | 04/25/07

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