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An even better quote
I think you missed the even better quote to totally destroy Richard's self confidence. Turns out that Symantec has to admit that every single flaw they found was fixed before they released the paper.

The team (Symantec) said it found several flaws in build 5270 of Vista and even more in earlier test versions. However, these were all fixed by Microsoft in build 5384 (Beta 2)
...
"While it is reassuring that Microsoft is finding and fixing these defects, we (Symantec) expect that vulnerabilities will continue to be discovered for some time"

And I expect that the sun will rise tomorrow morning. Let the first without bugs throw the first stone. Anybody? Anybody?

I won't even go into the source of the paper: Symantec. Hmm, think this company has anything at all to gain by making people afraid of their computers? Naaaa.

Poor Richard, the life of a "frothing at the mouth zealot" simply can't be an easy or satisfying one. sad
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That's like having Pig Pen notice Lucy's cruelty to Charlie Brown,  HypnoToad | 07/18/06
Give it a rest  csa0307 | 07/18/06
Ummm no  prime21 | 07/18/06
Ummm yes  nikoli | 07/18/06
We have a winner  NonZealot | 07/18/06
Agreed  the_seb | 07/18/06
Depends which version  voska | 07/18/06
Your post shows how little you know about the subject.  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
All the "knowledge" in the world means nothing to personal  Laff | 07/19/06
I agree to simplicity  mypl8s4u2 | 07/19/06
You couldn't write a better comedy  Richard Flude | 07/18/06
What is even more pathetic ...  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
ROTFLMAO!!  Loverock Davidson | 07/18/06
An even better quote  NonZealot | 07/18/06
And they also wrote:  Richard Flude | 07/18/06
Another feeble attempt to slant what was said!  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
Sure... BUT... at release time...  Northwolf | 07/19/06
Your impersonation of Carnac aside, ....  ShadeTree | 07/19/06
I'm glad to see context..... but  mypl8s4u2 | 07/19/06
Elephant in the room  baggins_z | 07/18/06
Symantec sees an Achilles' heel in Vista  Loverock Davidson | 07/18/06
Recommend?  DangDaCommonCentz | 07/18/06
Hmmmmm....  Northwolf | 07/19/06
Misrepresented statement  mypl8s4u2 | 07/19/06
Could Symantec be more Transparent?  jpr75_z | 07/18/06
the devil and miss jones  not of this world | 07/18/06
What a hoot!  Linux User 147560 | 07/18/06
It is also in Windows XP.  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
May be true or not... haven't verified it yet...  Linux User 147560 | 07/18/06
Easy to say - difficult to prove! (nt)  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
There has been experimental IPv6 stacks  michael_t | 07/19/06
new code in Vista???  Linux Geek | 07/18/06
If it is new code it can't be Linux.  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
Erm...  zkiwi | 07/18/06
I do not work for or support SCO nor ...  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
Back under your rock  TonyMcS | 07/18/06
you got that right  mypl8s4u2 | 07/19/06
A NEW ROUND of pain starts (and we are not talking about middle-east ...)  michael_t | 07/18/06
The parts of the article you left out because ...  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
I'll give you this much....  Laff | 07/18/06
I didn  michael_t | 07/18/06
For years you luddites have been calling ...  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
Geezz ... for years I have been saying that YOU CANNOT RETROFIT GOOD DESIGN  michael_t | 07/18/06
"for years I have been saying that YOU CANNOT RETROFIT GOOD DESIGN" ....  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
Common sense makes NO sense to U? U are in worst shape  michael_t | 07/18/06
Shadetree the article doesn't even mention the new  Intellihence | 07/18/06
Wasn't worth 2 cents.  ShadeTree | 07/19/06
Maybe you don't get it......  mypl8s4u2 | 07/20/06
As any company that sells security software should.  ShadeTree | 07/20/06
Question for you michael  NonZealot | 07/18/06
Good point  the_seb | 07/18/06
Ah but....  Laff | 07/18/06
A more secure operating system?  the_seb | 07/18/06
Fair enough....I was not specific enough:)  Laff | 07/18/06
Winners and losers  NonZealot | 07/18/06
You are Kidding "NonZealot" ,,,right!!??  Northwolf | 07/19/06
Ouch Northwolf, pick yourself up off the floor!  NonZealot | 07/19/06
I've keep asking WHY should people switch to Vista but NO answer wink  michael_t | 07/18/06
Answered your question many times  NonZealot | 07/18/06
Great parody dude! (nt)  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
one observation is that  michael_t | 07/18/06
If dumb were funny ....  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
Even if dumb were funny ....  michael_t | 07/18/06
Just point to the URL of ONE of your list of compeling reasons...  michael_t | 07/18/06
What happened ? No Reply since YOU NEVER answered successfully ...  michael_t | 07/18/06
The fact that more then ones of us ...  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
Here's an answer  voska | 07/18/06
for people invested in XP ($$$, man-hours, etc) there is no SANE reason  michael_t | 07/18/06
Well......  Laff | 07/18/06
Good question  NonZealot | 07/18/06
In my oppinion as a technical person, Vista  michael_t | 07/18/06
RE: Good question  michael_t | 07/18/06
michael: dissapointing reply?  NonZealot | 07/18/06
RE: michael_t  ShadeTree | 07/18/06
RE: [michael: dissapointing reply?] Yet U have not replied with ANY substan  michael_t | 07/18/06
RE: [michael: dissapointing reply? to ShadyTree]  michael_t | 07/18/06
yeah,  mypl8s4u2 | 07/20/06
In response....  mypl8s4u2 | 07/20/06
LOL Symantec  zmud | 07/18/06
Hm, so to all the people who say MS needs to rewrite all of Windows,  PB_z | 07/18/06
And as an industry community, Symantec relates the info back to the source  Boot_Agnostic | 07/18/06
First time Symantec was concerned about a MS release.  osreinstall | 07/18/06

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