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Your argument is captious
His argument was: "I challenge anyone to show me a perfect operating system that never needs a patch." Yet you cite his opinion that patches would not be needed if hackers, etc. did not exist.

Your statement: "hackers, virus writers and the like are not the problem here." Is breathtaking. Of course they are.

Your argument: "If they'd created a more secure and stable OS in the first place they wouldn't have to make it more secure and stable." goes to the heart of, but does not address his challenge, where he implies that there are NO secure and stable OS's in the first place.

In my opinion, the only secure computer has no internet connection, removable media or input device of any kind, and the only stable computer is unplugged.
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So they  Shelendrea | 06/28/06
When will you get it straight?  NonZealot | 06/28/06
And you based that on what?  Shelendrea | 06/28/06
And you base your accusation on what?  NonZealot | 06/28/06
NZ Please show me...  mdsmedia | 06/28/06
Fair enough  NonZealot | 06/28/06
Oh really  Shelendrea | 06/28/06
Where were the answers to my questions?  NonZealot | 06/28/06
You still don't get it  Shelendrea | 06/29/06
You still haven't answered the questions  NonZealot | 06/29/06
If you want a straight answer  Shelendrea | 06/29/06
re: And you base your accusation on what?  plumnilly | 06/29/06
Windows  rschmitty@... | 06/28/06
RE: So they  richdave | 06/28/06
apache  dwest_z | 06/29/06
Patches  sujit_z | 06/29/06
I agree that it looks like  djc1309@... | 06/29/06
Not necessarily  Shelendrea | 06/29/06
Let's see how many other problems the "upgrade" causes...  realitycheck101 | 06/28/06
Reality Check  SWW Ironman | 06/28/06
hmm... i smell the scent of subjectivity...  scottie_clark@... | 06/29/06
Here's your reality check  Shelendrea | 06/29/06
Calling George Ou--  tic swayback | 06/28/06
You don't hold Apple to a higher standard?  NonZealot | 06/28/06
Much better  tic swayback | 06/28/06
How soon they forget...  Real World | 06/29/06
Just looking for fairness  tic swayback | 06/29/06
OK  Real World | 06/29/06
re: Calling George Ou--  barsteward | 06/28/06
This message has been [patch]ed.  Mr. Roboto | 06/28/06
Too bad they can't fix windows.  whiplash69 | 06/28/06
Um, okay...  NonZealot | 06/28/06
A challenge for the MSFT bashers  bunnyman | 06/28/06
Windows  rschmitty@... | 06/28/06
you are kidding right?  mdsmedia | 06/28/06
Laughable?  bunnyman | 06/28/06
Maybe laughable, but your statment is irrelevent  Cayble | 06/28/06
Your argument is captious  dgari | 06/28/06
They aren't?  rapson | 06/29/06
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 06/28/06
And your opinion...  Rick_K | 07/01/06
Connection problems after MS updates  algarsurf | 06/28/06
To all the Haters out there  rudodoo | 06/28/06
Thank You rudodoo!  bunnyman | 06/28/06
RE: Thank You rudodoo!  richdave | 06/28/06
Also, Be thankful to MS! You have a job!  andyfran@... | 06/28/06
Whiners  FlippingFinger | 06/29/06
the first version of the fix  not of this world | 06/28/06
This is OLD news - there are 2 new IE exploits today!  whisperycat | 06/29/06
Well, you've certainly been a busy cat  Boot_Agnostic | 06/29/06
Glad I DO NOT use XP !  jackie40d@... | 06/29/06
Glad I DO NOT use XP !  Atsarr | 06/29/06
RE: Glad I DO NOT use XP !  HerbieHightower | 06/29/06
Read the advisory - 2000 is critical  exile_ken | 06/29/06
HILARIOUS!!!  NonZealot | 06/29/06
Patch, patch, patch, patch d' patch ....  Reverend MacFellow | 06/29/06
No kidding!!  NonZealot | 06/29/06
LOVE the title!!!  s_gamgee | 06/29/06
MS Critical updates  eJud | 06/29/06
*snicker*  jgmsys@... | 06/29/06

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