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RE: Which makes it even more important, right?
Ben also said: Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.

Case in point today ........ long have people give up freedom's [ ?All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing? ] for a false sense of security only to be told well that did not work now you must give up this .... and on an on it goes recently the Supreme Court heard a case where a man leaning on his pickup truck minding his business was charged with a crime [impeading a peace office , in texas no less] for not producing his ID when ordered to - What is this the USSR where the KGB can demand your papers anytime they want ??

Yes I truely wonder if people know what they have given up to feel safer in there Suburban Night Mare
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so only criminials have privacy  JWatson77 | 03/12/04
leave our civil liberties alone!  stephen732@... | 03/13/04
Excuse ME  cammobus@... | 03/15/04
Excuse ME  pcjunkie48 | 03/16/04
This is going to ruin the internet..period  Teddy Tubesteak | 03/12/04
It's not Republican or Democrat, it's both  sullivanjc | 03/15/04
and why must .....  cammobus@... | 03/15/04
A good thing and a bad thing  ibabadur1 | 03/12/04
Exactly  Teddy Tubesteak | 03/12/04
Re: Exactly  cammobus@... | 03/15/04
Does any one know if.....  nite_w0lf | 03/12/04
LOL  MkIIISupra | 03/12/04
What joke?  Teddy Tubesteak | 03/12/04
YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR AGAINST US!  stephen732@... | 03/13/04
re: YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR AGAINST US!  cammobus@... | 03/15/04
apples and oranges  GrumpyOldMan | 03/15/04
to assume that statement was correct  cammobus@... | 03/15/04
its not a joke.(nt)  nite_w0lf | 03/13/04
No right to privacy  ShadeTree | 03/15/04
Which makes it even more important, right?  escoles@... | 03/15/04
RE: Which makes it even more important, right?  cammobus@... | 03/15/04
Ben, Freedom, Security  SC-man | 03/15/04
well then correct me please  cammobus@... | 03/15/04
right to privacy  shallow_diver | 03/15/04
RE: right to privacy  cammobus@... | 03/15/04
death of a democracy  shallow_diver | 03/15/04
what if no one represents you ??  nite_w0lf | 03/15/04
Not explicitly,...  JerryPM | 03/15/04
What is not explicit about "All Men"  ShadeTree | 03/15/04
"All men" is explicit, but the definition of "men" was not  JerryPM | 03/15/04
Try the fourth amendment.  az firebird | 03/15/04
Scriutinization  SC-man | 03/15/04
Not a right to privacy  ShadeTree | 03/15/04
Enough Already  kyerke@... | 03/12/04
GET TO THE POINT: HERE I OFFER MY HAND AND FOREHEAD  suiitor | 03/12/04
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are ya skeered, or what?  pcjunkie48 | 03/16/04
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get a freakin warrant  win@... | 03/15/04
sure  jeffro1001 | 04/26/04
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there ou go making sense  JWatson77 | 03/18/04
Hey George Orwell ! ! !  hupmat | 03/15/04
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re : broadband wiretaps by police  JWatson77 | 03/18/04
The Government at its Intrusive Best  Madcatrobert_z | 03/15/04
Big brothers at it again huh?  crzyltdvl | 03/15/04
On One Condition  JimSatterfieldW | 03/15/04
Do it quick, before Bush loses in November  steve@... | 03/15/04
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