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Freedom of privacy is a myth
the Fourth Amendment talks about UNREASONABLE search and seizure. It talks nothing of data collection.

If an ISP collects data on everyone it services, then the 4th is not violated because of equal protection. Everyone is logged.

It will take a court order at that point for the DoJ to acquire those logs - so again, the 4th is not violated.

You, however, are being unreasonable in suggesting that everyone be given a free ride. I suggest that you stop driving your car, you never know when you might be hit by the beam of a robo-cap radar camera on the street corner even if you are not speeding.

The issue is the same by your logic. A police officer can scan your vehicle speed with a radar or lidar gun - but he won't know who you are or anything about you unless you are breaking the law. At that point, thanks to radar, he can pull you over and THEN get your personal information.

Same thing with this. No one is going to see these logs until a court order is issued.
Posted by: Dave P.   Posted on: 05/28/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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If he knows everything I've seen,read,know...  welcome to hell | 05/26/06
AT&T  petemitchell | 05/27/06
If it feels good, do it.  HypnoToad72 | 05/27/06
In the tradeoff  Boot_Agnostic | 05/27/06
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I think you know who "does the deeming"  TimeBomb | 05/27/06
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As if!  mloftis@... | 05/27/06
Terrorists, Fraudsters, and Tax Cheats, Oh My!!!  bhartman36 | 05/27/06
blackmail is the currency of power  welcome to hell | 05/28/06
Objections  bhartman36 | 05/28/06
It ain't about porn-  The Tautologist | 05/29/06
Power  bhartman36 | 05/30/06
Re: Terrorists, Fraudsters, and Tax Cheats, Oh My!!!  none none | 05/29/06
Logs  bhartman36 | 05/29/06
This has *NOTHING* to do with Child Pornography!  mloftis@... | 05/27/06
What about the numbers too?  mloftis@... | 05/27/06
Freedom of privacy is a myth  Dave P. | 05/28/06
Don't count on it.... child porn is just their excuse..  shawkins | 05/28/06
wedge issues  welcome to hell | 05/28/06
A little more info on police cars  voska | 05/29/06
Shocked Shocked to find out there's....  zstrongz | 05/28/06
once again down the treacherous road  txdufus@... | 05/28/06
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web server logs  welcome to hell | 05/28/06
webserver not ISP  welcome to hell | 05/28/06
of course  zonmoy | 05/28/06
Heck, maybe it'll lead to new obscuring technologies  Boot_Agnostic | 05/30/06
Electronic Communication Transactional Records Act  Nancy Lewis | 06/28/06

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