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Quoth the former hacker in the article:
"The bottom line is no matter whom you are, someone will try and gain access to your system at some point in existence, and whether or not they are successful is down to you or your administrator."

The truth is, most IS departments do NOT make security and patching a priority. Be it laziness, overwork, other projects, or that bad experience some guy had with NT SP2 back in 1997, they put off fixing real issues until it is too late. If a window is broken in your house, you fix it immediately or you are a fool and deserve what happens if someone breaks in. If you have to test the new glass to make sure it is compatible with the old glass in your house, you at least nail up plywood to seal the hole while you test.

If you choose to run MS software, you know there are security holes, and failing to test and apply released patches for those holes IMMEDIATELY (and, yes, I said TEST AND APPLY IMMEDIATELY) is bad administration that ultimately affects everyone on the internet, not just your company or those running MS software. If you cannot fix the problem immediately, the only safe course of action is to isolate those systems you cannot fix from possible infection by the problem (unplug 'em from the net or otherwise isolate them).

Should MS fix these problems and release better software that doesn't require this kind of work and attention? 100%, without-a-doubt, YES. But until then, if you choose to use their products, you are responsible for applying the fixes they do provide.
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Is this an "I told ya so" or what.  Squawkbox | 10/27/03
Where's No_Ax?  Chad_z | 10/27/03
Interesting, you share the sme views...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/03
Re: Interesting, you share the sme (sic) views...  Martin Marvinski | 10/27/03
Huh, read his post again.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/03
Re: Huh, read his post again  Martin Marvinski | 10/27/03
They're still scum  DO_z | 10/27/03
What a limitted viewpoint?  John Le'Brecage | 10/28/03
I have a somewhat different viewpoint.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/28/03
Their point is that the crooks have knowledge than can be useful  doctormoriarty | 10/28/03
You've been fed a falacy.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/28/03
Couldn't agree more...  John Le'Brecage | 10/28/03
how they helped  ryusen | 10/28/03
Show me were it SOLVED anything.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/28/03
and show me  ryusen | 10/28/03
DCS: Answers to barred posts...  John Le'Brecage | 10/28/03
welcome back Bitty  blahblahblah | 10/28/03
Safe Systems  samp_z | 10/27/03
notice...  ryusen | 10/27/03
but..  d_jedi | 10/27/03
it's probably a combination of many factors  ryusen | 10/27/03
Linux users and ethically void  Squawkbox | 10/27/03
Here's another one  Chad_z | 10/27/03
Bad administration  pschroeder@... | 10/27/03
Read it again  pschroeder@... | 10/27/03
Re: Read it again  Martin Marvinski | 10/27/03
Wrong wrong wrong  pschroeder@... | 10/27/03
Wrong Wrong Wrong  samp_z | 10/28/03
the problem is...  ryusen | 10/28/03
Re: Safe Systems  Martin Marvinski | 10/27/03
Same with RedHat  JoeMama_z | 10/27/03
Re: Same with RedHat  Martin Marvinski | 10/27/03
Rapist say rape victims are to blame.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/03
difference is  ryusen | 10/27/03
It's always the victims 'fault'.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/03
of course you missed the point  ryusen | 10/27/03
No it is YOU that miss the point.  DO_z | 10/27/03
Wow  Fanatical Desperado | 10/28/03
At least SOMEONE gets it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/28/03
well it isn't you or your alter ego  ryusen | 10/28/03
No it is YOU that miss the point.  bchesmer | 10/28/03
On that you can bet the farm.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/28/03
First off, hackers ARE criminals  DO_z | 10/28/03
just say no  lmaxwell | 11/01/03
Please stop making this analogy: it does you no credit.  dw@... | 10/28/03
Talkback  nrlz | 10/28/03
The analogy in question served it's purpose...  DO_z | 10/28/03
What does this hacker use?  pschroeder@... | 10/27/03
Not enough information  IT_User | 10/27/03
True  pschroeder@... | 10/27/03
you're overlooking the obvious  Fanatical Desperado | 10/27/03
re: Peter  ryusen | 10/27/03
To all  pschroeder@... | 10/27/03
you miss the obvious  ryusen | 10/28/03
What does this hacker use?  bchesmer | 10/28/03
Assumptions  pschroeder@... | 10/29/03
You seem to be confused.  frixion | 11/13/03
... and an apology  frixion | 11/13/03
Hard to secure windows?  JoeMama_z | 10/27/03
Talkback prove the MS PR campain is working  Richard Flude | 10/27/03
Please give me a break!  DO_z | 10/27/03
Please give me a break!  bchesmer | 10/28/03
been a grip with me for a long time  JoeMama_z | 10/28/03
Someone Curious?  DO_z | 10/28/03
Nitpicking isn't gonna change the substance of the message...  DO_z | 10/28/03
think we need a new name  lmaxwell | 11/01/03
breaks...  ryusen | 10/28/03
Thanks for the info but....  DO_z | 10/28/03
Something to remember  frixion | 11/13/03
Funny  Richard Flude | 10/28/03
so then we should just let them be...  DO_z | 10/28/03
Confused by your posting  Richard Flude | 10/29/03
insanity vs. fantasy  xshakes | 10/28/03
perople that  lmaxwell | 11/01/03

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