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In the absence of independent judicial review, the people responsible for operating a program such as the one the Bush administration is running will eventually come to see themselves as the only people capable of running the program and justify using the program to perpetuate their power by eliminating political opponents. It is precisely this sort of abuse that led to the passage of the FISA act in the post-Watergate years.

The choice is not "between safety and security" as you suggest, but rather between freedom and tyranny. By throwing away our Bill of Rights protections against government abuses, the Bush administration is allowing our enemies to destroy our freedoms -- and without even having to fire a single shot! The Bush administration is at best an unwitting ally of the terrorist extremists who attacked us in 2001; at worst they may be political opportunists exploiting the fear of another such attack for to their own advantage to perpetuate their hold on power and in the process destroying the democratic (please note: lower case) principles and freedoms that have made our country a beacon of hope around the world.
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Republicans are the best  too_much green_tea | 02/09/06
Demo-creeps to leak details ....  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/09/06
Darn it!!!  Laff | 02/09/06
A serious question....  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/09/06
OK...let's say the listen to me and my conversations  Laff | 02/09/06
Good answer!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/09/06
It's not paranoia if people are out to get you!!! happy  Laff | 02/09/06
paranoia paranoia  Shelendrea | 02/09/06
mixed feelings about this  kjgslg@... | 02/09/06
But are you certain?  Laff | 02/09/06
You answered your own question.  FreeBSD | 02/09/06
Free to die?  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/09/06
Why should it be one or the other.....  Laff | 02/09/06
Yup, live free or die.  Judas I. | 02/09/06
Message has been deleted.  FreeBSD | 02/09/06
Really?  AssaultedNuts | 02/09/06
Apparently (With Dubya) I do have to choose.  friedcow | 02/09/06
Shhhhhh....  techboy_z | 02/09/06
Yes you DO have to choose  s_gamgee | 02/09/06
How it affects freedom  JDThompson | 02/09/06
The issue is not how its done u idiot  AssaultedNuts | 02/09/06
the u.s. constitution  eglazier | 02/09/06
Oh, now THERE'S a REAL rib tickler:  Judas I. | 02/09/06
If it was President Hillerory  gogalthorp | 02/09/06
If it was the wicked witch from NY  zchief | 02/09/06
Hummm, Government by the people  Hanover Phist | 02/09/06
dangerous  Altotus | 02/09/06
No, I really wouldn't!!!  techboy_z | 02/09/06
Please get your facts straight.  Harrim | 02/09/06
If Santa shot you with a gun, would it be any different?  Jeff Spicoli | 02/09/06
WHATT???  s_gamgee | 02/09/06
Why is this IT news?  nomorems | 02/09/06
Well now that we have your opinion.....  Laff | 02/09/06
Of course not...  nomorems | 02/09/06
Re: Why is this IT news?  krustykanuck | 02/09/06
So, what EXACTLY were these  Betelgeuse58 | 02/09/06
YUP.  s_gamgee | 02/09/06
How do you disclose in secret? = OXYMORON...oxymorOFF!!!  Betelgeuse58 | 02/10/06
I am trying deperately not to laugh  Shelendrea | 02/09/06
Don't have a family, Am diabetic since age 6 am now 43  Laff | 02/09/06
Oh, my, Shelendrea, my dear, dear girl.  Judas I. | 02/09/06
I will always honor our troops but I am sad to say  Laff | 02/09/06
You are perfectly correct, Laff, when you say that ...  Judas I. | 02/09/06
How can you really say that you honor them  Shelendrea | 02/09/06
Iraq never had the ability to do much of anything to us  Laff | 02/09/06
O'Butterball  Shelendrea | 02/09/06
Nice rant ... I take it you're not into conspiracy theories...  Artstar | 02/09/06
why thankyou  Shelendrea | 02/09/06
There's always  rjhenn_z | 02/09/06
Underclothes and freedom  s_gamgee | 02/09/06
SOS, DD  Jack-Booted EULA | 02/09/06
Surveillance is useless  svasutin | 02/12/06
political vs effective  Altotus | 02/13/06

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