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"What the OS zealots fail to understand is that it isn't the OS, it is
the attitude that allows malware to propagate so easily."

If we accept that is the user behaviour then why does the OS let
it happen. This same defence is raised every-time another one
of these windows malware is released - when is enough going to
be enough.

"Email a .sh file to every user who got infected with Nyxem along
with instructions on how to set the execute bit and instructions
on how to run as root and all of them would do it."

And you compare this to dismissing a dialogue in Outlook? Who
ever gets executables in an email anyway that isn't malware?

"The only way to secure an OS from the computer naive is to not
give them the root/Administrator password at all and even then
they would probably get hit with a trojan that deleted all their
personal files."

Absolute rubbish. The *nix family has many tool in the
administrators bag of trick to prevent these things. You can very
easily prevent users from being able to run executables that
have not been set-up by an administrator - period no
exceptions. What's more, unlike the crap slapped together in the
windows world where many apps can't even run with restricted
permissions, the superior design of *nix programs allows these
restrictions to be put in place and the system will function.

If you keep bleating "the user is dumb" then how about
demanding from Redmond an OS that protect them from
themselves.

After years of this same type of attack we have yet another piece
of windows malware and still they apologise for MS.
Posted by: Richard Flude   Posted on: 01/24/06 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Poor trojan never had a chance. sad  NonZealot | 01/23/06
You got the order a little wrong.  DonnieBoy | 01/23/06
No, I stand by my points  NonZealot | 01/23/06
So you deny that Mac/Linux/BSD/Solaris were not affected?  DonnieBoy | 01/23/06
Donnieboy  toadlife | 01/23/06
But, since 80% of sites use Apache, there should be lots more exploits  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
The stupidity overwhelms me!  NonZealot | 01/24/06
At the absolute worst, Apache has slightly more exploits that IIS  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
DonnieBoy, the pipes, the pipes are calling  NonZealot | 01/24/06
The fact remains that Apache is NOT significantly more likely to be  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
DonnieBoy still avoiding the question!  NonZealot | 01/24/06
Well, the bottom line is wheather or not there is a significant  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
I graciously accept your defeat.  NonZealot | 01/24/06
If you want to make other wierd arguments, go ahead.  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
No One Hacks the Apache Porn Sites?  PMC-CON | 01/24/06
give me a break!  T38 | 01/24/06
A Dang good reason  Cayble | 01/24/06
Hmmm, interesting  maldain | 01/24/06
here's the problem  justWes | 01/23/06
And, you are one of the few that understand why we need a secure OS!  DonnieBoy | 01/23/06
Then it isn't the OS  NonZealot | 01/23/06
Rubbish  Richard Flude | 01/24/06
Educate yourself  NonZealot | 01/24/06
So, is it ok to make it very easy, almost automatic, to execute email  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
No, and it isn't with XP SP2 and/or Outlook  NonZealot | 01/24/06
Funny that you mention Outlook, one of the worst security holes around.  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
Funny that you mention Linux, one of the worst security holes around.  NonZealot | 01/24/06
Your name  petteyg359 | 01/25/06
sigh...no, it's *BOTH*  T38 | 01/24/06
Your statements were true 5 years ago  NonZealot | 01/24/06
power in the users hands  moses_z | 02/06/06
Hey NonZealot  toadlife | 01/23/06
Thanks toadlife!  NonZealot | 01/23/06
NonZealots position is clear  Richard Flude | 01/24/06
Not true  NonZealot | 01/24/06
One thing you overlooked...  wolf_z | 01/24/06
Poor little closet zealot  Sabz5150 | 01/24/06
Keep up with the times  NonZealot | 01/24/06
Ok, there are at least 100 times more exploits for Windows Desktops  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
Cleverful retort  Sabz5150 | 01/24/06
It was clever!  NonZealot | 01/24/06
wrong again  T38 | 01/24/06
What's Up With This Comment?  PMC-CON | 01/24/06
Hey, genius....  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 01/24/06
uhhh...you're not as secure as you think  T38 | 01/24/06
Another clueless linux n00b  toadlife | 01/24/06
wanna bet?  T38 | 01/24/06
Sorry but this is nothing but FUD  NonZealot | 01/24/06
I don't think any home OS is invulnerable  NonZealot | 01/24/06
Oops, clarification  NonZealot | 01/24/06
lol happy  T38 | 01/24/06
Myth Busting Time!  Spikey_Mike | 01/24/06
I'll ask you the same old tired question  NonZealot | 01/24/06
That Register article is rife with logical fallacies and FUD.  toadlife | 01/24/06
NonZealot  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 01/24/06
It hurts too much  NonZealot | 01/24/06
response  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 01/24/06
Ah, I agree with you totally!  NonZealot | 01/24/06
Third party clients and webmail  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 01/24/06
Third party clients and webmail  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 01/24/06
Love to pornography beats fear of the worm;at least for many. It?s sad (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/23/06
And you better get used to it, it ain't gona change any time soon.  DonnieBoy | 01/23/06
Why do you thing I?m talking about OS? Maybe human mentality? (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/23/06
The point is, human behaviour is not going to change any time soon. If you  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
Give it up........  BXLE | 01/24/06
Many of 2-legged creatures behave like 4-legged ones - OS doesn?t help (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/24/06
Donnie get over it,  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 01/24/06
This is just freaking SAD  mobrien_12@... | 01/23/06
Better get used to user behaviour and make a secure OS.  DonnieBoy | 01/23/06
How would OSX protect people from these types of worms?  toadlife | 01/23/06
In general, MS makes it very, very easy to recieve and execute  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
It's very easy to receive and execute files on OSX too  toadlife | 01/24/06
Well, I ain' t a Mac expert, but it is Unix based, and would definately be  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
...  toadlife | 01/24/06
I have been using Linux since the mid-80s, but you are no expert at all if  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
Sorry, meant to say "Unix" in the last post.  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
I'm sorry to hear that Donnieboy  toadlife | 01/24/06
Totally sad!  X Marks The Spot | 01/23/06
So that's what happened to all my files:()  svasutin | 01/23/06
Another Intelligence Test  Roger Ramjet | 01/24/06
LOL; maybe this is why the feds asked for all the search engine records!  HypnoToad | 01/24/06
Cue the MSFT apologists  Chad_z | 01/24/06
But, Microsoft makes it so easy to execute email attachments, they also  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
NOT O/S Design - Misguided Configuration  PMC-CON | 01/24/06
new OS prevents attacks  corticus | 01/24/06
New O/S?  BXLE | 01/24/06
Problems with Outlook design and bad coding have been the cause of MANY  DonnieBoy | 01/24/06
Try Decaf  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 01/24/06
New OS Order  bwsaloum@... | 01/24/06

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