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Is everyone suit happy? Can't you see that no matter what corporation gets sued, or how much 'they' have to pay, WE HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE! Suing them does no real good and only drives the prices for products up to make up for the monies 'won' (It's more like an 'alternative tax'!) Take the smokers for example ... basically ... 'we' won. The only problem is the people who were truly harmed by smoking didn't get a penny, they just had to pay more for a 30-50 year old habit. Most of the money was used to fill politicians' state coffers (Colorado alone is currently trying to get a buy-out to use the money to balance their budget - NOT for the intended use - like MOST STATES!) Still the prices for cigarettes skyrocketed! The tobacco companies didn't 'lose' ... only the people who had been smoking for all the years did (oh wait, what do we mean they didn't get any of the money? and little money was spent to educate teens - what a surprise!)

It would be so interesting to see Linux do everything that MS does and be as easy to implement. I would certainly consider that as an alternative. Yet, even with Red Hat, etc making it easier to install and configure for the normal person ... it won't do everything people need it to without them being a veritable expert or willing to invest an incredible amount of their valuable free time. For the home user, it is nothing much better than a 'specialty' OS or a 'hobby'.

Furthermore, even as it is now, if the roles were reversed (Linux on all the desktops instead of MS), you would see the hackers having reason to do the same to Linux and, if you don't think they would CONTINUALLY find ways to hack it, then you must be under 12.

Wake up and smell the coffee folks. It's not that I don't have respect for Linux in particular roles, it's the moronic attitude that it is godlike secure. The only 'reason' it is so secure is that it's not the major player and isn't expected to play well with EVERY other OS, every language, and peripheral manufactured ...
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why bother?  stephen732@... | 02/10/04
(NT) some advertisement happy  toomuchgreeatea@... | 02/10/04
UNTIL MICROSUCKS GETS SUED...  realitycheck101 | 02/10/04
Sorry, read the EULA....  Oscar_Goldman | 02/10/04
True but deception is rampant  michael-t | 02/10/04
Also Re the EULA  The Real Bitch | 02/11/04
eula's  NemesisNL | 02/11/04
Why not you then  rock06r | 02/10/04
HOME USERS APPLY THIS PATCH IMMEDIATELY!!!!  Heatlesssun | 02/10/04
UNTIL MICROSUCKS GETS SUED..  rwest@... | 02/11/04
Until MS Gets Sued ...  gary.douglas@... | 02/11/04
Bravo!  brasscap_z | 02/11/04
The pain at Microsoft has to be more than they can bear.  DonnieBoy | 02/10/04
Not the only ones with problems....  racka4279 | 02/10/04
Yeah...MS is doing good.  Cardinal_Bill | 02/10/04
Nobody claims perfection  zd-spam | 02/10/04
But Billy Gates comes close  IT_User | 02/10/04
I agree, security is relative  racka4279 | 02/10/04
flawed argument.  ryusen | 02/10/04
Let me see if I've got this straight.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/10/04
um..  racka4279 | 02/10/04
sense of humor  broadway al | 02/11/04
Server exploits versus desktop exploits  Knorthern Knight | 02/10/04
Caught You  nikoli | 02/11/04
how does this affect xp lite  Hanover Phist | 02/11/04
how long to patch  scott.marlowe@... | 02/11/04
MS Flaw......again  B_HI | 02/10/04
Two hundred days to fix this...  Solid Water | 02/10/04
eEye is compromising another tool for Homeland Security  toomuchgreeatea@... | 02/10/04
Don't think we'll see No_Ax/Shadetree/usapride/southerpride/NoLife in here  Bobby Sskcat | 02/10/04
Don't think we'll see No_Ax/Shadetree/usapride/sout herpride/NoLife in here  FreeBSD | 02/10/04
Funny  fastech@... | 02/10/04
Bwahahahahahaha!! That was great!!  Bobby Sskcat | 02/10/04
Not really  zd-spam | 02/10/04
It's already happened...  surtur | 02/11/04
HEAR HEAR....  spinit | 02/10/04
Two mistakes:  CobraA1 | 02/10/04
What is MS?  zd-spam | 02/10/04
Rant Rant Flame Rant Flame Rant  Squawkbox | 02/10/04
MS has already started doing that  toomuchgreeatea@... | 02/10/04
Sorry I did not know I have been in my cave too long.  Squawkbox | 02/10/04
Xp is flawed as well  NemesisNL | 02/11/04
Firestone & Ford  B_HI | 02/11/04
Stock in Firestone?  ddollinger | 02/11/04
Top Secret?  WizWom_z | 02/11/04
It's not just Windows. Linux users must do the same.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/10/04
So? What does this have to do with the story? It's an M$ article!  Bobby Sskcat | 02/10/04
Just helping users that are unaware.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/10/04
yeah.. right..  Iain_Peters | 02/10/04
LaiM_Peters has no clue  jrbeaman | 02/11/04
Thanks for the tip  nucrash | 02/10/04
Nice try Bit.  Cardinal_Bill | 02/10/04
The point being...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/10/04
His point being  nucrash | 02/10/04
Not exactly  Suicida| | 02/10/04
The point being 4 months...  jrbeaman | 02/11/04
oh bother  optimaloptimusprime | 02/10/04
Do you have a spell checker?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/10/04
I think he called you his girlfriend. In Spanish amiga=female friend  Squawkbox | 02/10/04
would not be a bad add on for a browser (nt)  JWatson77 | 02/11/04
wow  JWatson77 | 02/11/04
Linux INVENTED on an AMIGA? HAH!  jrbeaman | 02/11/04
the Worm infection is just windows  Iain_Peters | 02/10/04
Do you have a browser on our Linux box?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/10/04
I patched most of this problem months ago  DanIelWalker_z | 02/10/04
Good on ya, now warn others to do the same.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/10/04
But you imply tyhe risk is the same in both cases. It's not.  DanIelWalker_z | 02/11/04
You Just Did The Stupidest Possible  nikoli | 02/11/04
Re: You Just Did The Stupidest Possible  B.O.F.H. | 02/12/04
A browser on a server??? Why??  Iain_Peters | 02/11/04
Odd you should say that.  zd-spam | 02/10/04
You also missed the point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/10/04
Can you hit the point  michael-t | 02/10/04
Oh, come on...  brble | 02/10/04
a couple of points  ryusen | 02/10/04
Uh huh, whatever you say ZZ  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/10/04
you want to look at the actual isues?  ryusen | 02/10/04
In the eye of the beholder...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/10/04
beholders are ugly...  ryusen | 02/11/04
Axe - point out ZZ'z misinterpretation  Iain_Peters | 02/11/04
Have you taken...  The Real Bitch | 02/11/04
I think that Dr. Phil could  michael-t | 02/12/04
Well for starters  bhanes@... | 02/11/04
re: a couple of points  brble | 02/10/04
NP  ryusen | 02/10/04
Yes... and no....  Zogg | 02/10/04
Design  Suicida| | 02/10/04
The loudest the noise  michael-t | 02/10/04
Small technical point...  Zogg | 02/11/04
The strength of modular design, eh?  Zogg | 02/11/04
I don't use SSL  FreeBSD | 02/10/04
For my mind the MS one appears much worst  Richard Flude | 02/10/04
Nonsense, as usual.  michael-t | 02/10/04
OpenSSL is from the OpenBSD project!  B.O.F.H. | 02/11/04
Nice try bub  Taz_z | 02/11/04
You are daft, aren't you?  WizWom_z | 02/11/04
Ah, I see now how this lowers the TCO ..  George Jay | 02/10/04
Windows Users Remind Me Of A Dog  Chad_z | 02/10/04
That's good writing.  Anton Philidor | 02/10/04
Glad you like it.  Cardinal_Bill | 02/10/04
Wrong way 'round  Anton Philidor | 02/10/04
Thanks for reminding me what I dislike most about Linux  jfrankcarr | 02/10/04
both sides  ryusen | 02/10/04
The day the twin towers fell...  civilised | 02/10/04
after that day....  NemesisNL | 02/11/04
And you point is?  FreeBSD | 02/10/04
The point is the Linux attitude  jfrankcarr | 02/10/04
RE: The point is the Linux attitude  Iain_Peters | 02/11/04
There are just as many, if not more...  The Real Bitch | 02/11/04
i resent that...  ryusen | 02/11/04
It really wasn't meant to offend anyone  The Real Bitch | 02/11/04
Gloaty Gras!  Chad_z | 02/10/04
actually  bhanes@... | 02/11/04
Not a minute too soon  michael-t | 02/10/04
STFU  Suicida| | 02/10/04
off point  michael-t | 02/10/04
Technical Arguments?  brble | 02/11/04
Too much effort for nothing  michael-t | 02/11/04
Ditto  brble | 02/11/04
Too many words; too little essence.  michael-t | 02/11/04
24 years?  D_Larsen | 02/11/04
Myth-buster  MarcB_z | 02/11/04
In addition  TWRX | 02/11/04
Don't you mean 1983?  voska | 02/11/04
Some inaccurate info there.  jfrankcarr | 02/11/04
At last someone with memory ....  michael-t | 02/11/04
At last someone with memory ....  michael-t | 02/11/04
Windows 1.0 1991  mrlinux | 02/11/04
MS ASN dll FLAW????  michael-t | 02/11/04
good point!  ryusen | 02/11/04
My theory on why it took so long.  jfrankcarr | 02/10/04
The people who  michael-t | 02/10/04
Corroborates mine  IT_User | 02/11/04
good, meaningful post  michael-t | 02/11/04
Common Sense??  stormaz@... | 02/11/04
Sadly you are right  michael-t | 02/11/04
Believe it or not  brble | 02/11/04
us navy  carl-mbsi | 03/11/04
Accuracy  brble | 02/11/04
A small pesky detail  michael-t | 02/11/04
Probably a Misunderstanding  brble | 02/11/04
But there is such GREAT job security in fixing the flaws at MS!  jrbeaman | 02/11/04
Why this is especially bad news for Microsoft  George Mitchell | 02/10/04
Windows 3.1.1  jhimes | 02/11/04
Um... "Deep" doesn't mean what you think  WizWom_z | 02/11/04
(NT) ZDNET, You need a new story - - - Read this one 18 times in last year.  Plain Logic | 02/10/04
(NT) No_Ax, HOW MANY SERVERS DID YOU NEED TO PATCH TODAY ???  Plain Logic | 02/10/04
If he is smart  Suicida| | 02/10/04
Is it safe to auto-update a MS patch  Iain_Peters | 02/11/04
NO NO NO!  jrbeaman | 02/11/04
All MS and Linux boxes, automatically.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/10/04
I would never  brble | 02/11/04
re: All MS and Linux boxes, automatically -NOT  Iain_Peters | 02/11/04
huh?  CobraA1 | 02/16/04
big deal  JWatson77 | 02/11/04
Think  mn210@... | 02/11/04
You Think  ITGuy04 | 02/11/04
I pray the patch won't break my system  doctormoriarty | 02/11/04
I think it did mine  jhimes | 02/11/04
Better after removing patch  jhimes | 02/11/04
Do you want some cheese to go with that whine?  rwest@... | 02/11/04
Linux has the same "holes"?  middle of nowhere | 02/11/04
Linux has the same "holes"?  rwest@... | 02/11/04
so you're saying  ryusen | 02/11/04
Another FUDder  WizWom_z | 02/11/04
If your Windows computer were a car  mau4@... | 02/11/04
Parked Car? Bad Analogy  mycoal5 | 02/11/04
Car analogy  mrlinux | 02/11/04
Car Analogy  stormaz@... | 02/12/04
If your Windows computer were a car  rwest@... | 02/11/04
look at this case specifically...  ryusen | 02/11/04
First thing to do.....  chiishen | 02/11/04
Throw out all MS software & prgmrs & start over again  IT-professional | 02/11/04
Start all the way over  Bit Bucketteer | 02/11/04
Market Share  TWRX | 02/11/04
Almost a really good post  nikoli | 02/11/04
Microsoft  aschwabjr@... | 02/11/04
A small pesky detail  michael-t | 02/11/04
This Is Just Stupid  nikoli | 02/11/04
AHMEN.  jrbeaman | 02/11/04
ahmen ???  nikoli | 02/11/04
Windows Flaw  dercp94@... | 02/11/04
What?  nikoli | 02/11/04
I should add  nikoli | 02/11/04
Another Timed Moved by M$  dgpeter@... | 02/11/04
EULA spyware / ownership issues  Laura Newman | 02/11/04
Not An Apologist But...  nikoli | 02/11/04
I couldn't imagine  michael-t | 02/11/04
You're too funny  nikoli | 02/11/04
Microsoft Flaws  TheWizard_z | 02/12/04
Mac OS X  slylabs13 | 02/13/04
Mine Either  nikoli | 02/15/04
Windows ME vulnerabilty and security support  jonkopp | 02/16/04
Window Flaw  redhead4855 | 02/16/04
Here We Go Again...  TANSTAAFL! | 02/17/04
Hmm. Isn't this software from India?  mike.pennington@... | 02/17/04

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