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...which...
...still leaves the security in the hands of the computer operator.

Which is not necessarily a bad thing, but that's exactly what we have now; this trojan was spread by USERS (computer operators) doing DUMB things.
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No, it shows Microsoft software is not working!!!  Bobby Sskcat | 02/03/04
You need a life....  DarbyOhara | 02/03/04
Flaming does not prove your point  Michael Kelly | 02/03/04
I'll give it a shot.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/03/04
Excellent suggestion  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
So why hasn't MS done this?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/04/04
Good question  pschroeder@... | 02/04/04
Why wait 4 to 6 years?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/04/04
waiting  pschroeder@... | 02/05/04
partly agree  ryusen | 02/03/04
Ask And Ye Shall Receive ...  coffeenite | 02/03/04
Please do go on  Michael Kelly | 02/03/04
Points  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
More Points  coffeenite | 02/03/04
Deep browsers and ZIP programs  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
Browsers, operating systems, and untrusted techies  Anton Philidor | 02/03/04
No, it proves that there is always a bigger idiot  nucrash | 02/03/04
Users aren't always that dumb ...  coffeenite | 02/03/04
...but, quite often, they are!  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
Eh ....  coffeenite | 02/03/04
What to do?  Doug@... | 02/03/04
Do this  MarcB_z | 02/03/04
Sigh  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
Get rid of ActiveX and VBA and 97% of the problem is solved  MarcB_z | 02/04/04
Neither of which would have solved THIS problem (NT)  pschroeder@... | 02/04/04
But that other 3% thingy would have (NT)  MarcB_z | 02/05/04
maybe ... except for the dumb user issue (NT)  pschroeder@... | 02/05/04
Fine for the corporate environment  jfrankcarr | 02/03/04
question  Hanover Phist | 02/03/04
...which...  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
you are right  ryusen | 02/03/04
Save and execute no fix  wolf_z | 02/03/04
AMEN, Built-in SECURITY helps tho'  MarcB_z | 02/03/04
Ok, so then they should have rights to restrict what you can do on your pc?  TreborG2 | 02/03/04
I think they should be restricted  voska | 02/03/04
restrictions  ryusen | 02/03/04
Nobody said "restrict"  MarcB_z | 02/04/04
Restrict execs  Domb2 | 02/03/04
don't forget...  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
Harder to hurt yourself/easier to effect others  Domb2 | 02/03/04
integration  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
RE Integration  Domb2 | 02/03/04
RE RE integration  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
re re re:  ryusen | 02/03/04
Integrated NOT EQUAL TO welded  MarcB_z | 02/04/04
Exactly.  bhanes@... | 02/03/04
Maybe we could return to non-executable mail?  Atlant | 02/03/04
Easy, get rid of VB & Office Macros  MarcB_z | 02/03/04
Lot's of systems use this technology  Heatlesssun | 02/03/04
Excel and Word are good reporting tools  jfrankcarr | 02/03/04
getting rid of useful features,  ryusen | 02/03/04
Microsft "solution" negates "useful" features  MarcB_z | 02/04/04
you don't get it... JPG & GIF can have embedded URLs!  TreborG2 | 02/03/04
Stupid Human Tricks  Squawkbox | 02/03/04
Actually ... Image files don't work that way  coffeenite | 02/03/04
Email should be just plain text  voska | 02/03/04
Files  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
Even at that  bhanes@... | 02/03/04
Of all things...  rbethell | 02/03/04
spam filtering doesn't stop mail from *known* sources  TreborG2 | 02/03/04
{cough} change the OS {cough}  Xunil_Sierutuf | 02/03/04
still the wrong answer  TreborG2 | 02/03/04
good comments  Domb2 | 02/03/04
How about  bhanes@... | 02/03/04
The answer is so simple...  Heatlesssun | 02/03/04
Simpler solution  tic swayback | 02/03/04
to scan the attachment  Fred Flintsone | 02/03/04
Yes, I read it !  chawly | 02/09/04
funny thing about linux...  ryusen | 02/03/04
Suggested Solutions  Domb2 | 02/03/04
Other options  Letophoro | 02/03/04
And item 5  Domb2 | 02/03/04
Pop-up msg's worthless  Gasman_z | 02/03/04
Overrides are too common  Domb2 | 02/03/04
Let's agree and disagree  chawly | 02/09/04
The real story  usapride | 02/03/04
About enough  MkIIISupra | 02/03/04
license requirement  Domb2 | 02/03/04
Amen ... but apply that across the boards  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
Nice post.....  Jose Jimenez | 02/03/04
problem with licencing  ryusen | 02/03/04
The NSA are fools?  B.O.F.H. | 02/03/04
well  bhanes@... | 02/03/04
Yes but .....  chawly | 02/09/04
Granted I only deal with SMB's  JoeMama_z | 02/03/04
It won't work  j.m.galvin | 02/03/04
I have one big problem with your statement  JoeMama_z | 02/03/04
ZIP files  pschroeder@... | 02/04/04
in my origional post....  JoeMama_z | 02/04/04
antivirus  pschroeder@... | 02/04/04
Unless your anti virus updates every day.  JoeMama_z | 02/05/04
Daily updates  pschroeder@... | 02/05/04
P.L.B.A.C. Virus  JoeMama_z | 02/05/04
So what was that MyDoom thingy  FilledOut | 02/03/04
What it was  tic swayback | 02/03/04
Sorry  FilledOut | 02/03/04
Hey Kids  Fred Flintsone | 02/03/04
It Shows that Microsoft Has Near-Zero Security  brenthawkinsmd | 02/03/04
What mail software has built in Virus protection?  PeteS_z | 02/03/04
some do not  JWatson77 | 02/06/04
Corporate vs. Home users  jfrankcarr | 02/03/04
What a sad state of affairs.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/04
Actually the Internet was a DoD/DARPA project...  B.O.F.H. | 02/03/04
It started well before that.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/04
History lesson  B.O.F.H. | 02/03/04
Interesting turn of events  tic swayback | 02/03/04
Just hilarious  nograin | 02/03/04
SpongeWare  pj-xmesh | 02/03/04
We'll let you answer the phone  jfrankcarr | 02/03/04
Stop it! You can't use common sense here!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/04
well...  yucantrak | 02/03/04
True  JWatson77 | 02/06/04
Short coming in MS products  grumpy_trumpy | 02/03/04
Short coming in Victoria Secrets products  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/04
Linux - a Burka for your computer?  jfrankcarr | 02/03/04
You still don't "get it" do you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/04
Well, to use another analogy  jfrankcarr | 02/03/04
Congratulations - you get it  Harry Bardal | 02/03/04
Product Flaws  tic swayback | 02/03/04
The point is, blaming the victim.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/03/04
Should the user shoulder any responsibility?  tic swayback | 02/03/04
But...  quietLee | 02/04/04
I agree  JWatson77 | 02/06/04
How's that again?  pschroeder@... | 02/03/04
No Spam from Zombie attackers  ratatat62 | 02/03/04
Education of the END USER is the only solution  morgaine2003 | 02/04/04
Why Email Executables?  dadon | 02/04/04
Business reasons  pschroeder@... | 02/04/04
Why Email Executables?  dadon | 02/05/04
FTP  pschroeder@... | 02/05/04
Fighting Fire With Fire  LAMski | 02/08/04
Fix Email, not OS  DGSteig | 02/09/04
Wrong solution! Wrong target! Wrong thinking!  harperwill@... | 02/09/04
problem is between keyboard and chair...  absentia | 02/09/04
my Doom  a8a09923@... | 02/09/04
Oh well, sh** happens ...  Shodan_z | 02/13/04

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