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Follow the Law, not their rules: The GPL doesn't take away anything that is already granted by law.

Most other EULA's do.; Posted by: rpmyers1 Posted on: 11/21/05 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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If they'd known Bill4 | 11/21/05

HDMI cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05

If they'd known Bill4 | 11/21/05

My Computer, My Rules rpmyers1 | 11/21/05

Sorry buy your wrong. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Which is why it hasn't been purchased rpmyers1 | 11/21/05

Doesn't matter... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

See my response to Loverock rpmyers1 | 11/21/05

But the point is, you do folloow their rules, not just yours No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Follow the Law, not their rules rpmyers1 | 11/21/05

Why ignore half the post? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

May I assume you agree with me? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

What Linus Torvalds actually said about DRM and Linux B.O.F.H. | 11/21/05

False John L. Ries | 11/21/05

No Don I would say he is right... Linux Advocate | 11/21/05

Not at all. osreinstall | 11/21/05

No Control Tim Patterson | 11/21/05

You do realize Loverock Davidson | 11/21/05

You mean... Tim Patterson | 11/21/05

GPL is just one example Loverock Davidson | 11/21/05

Thanks Tim Patterson | 11/21/05

You're welcome Loverock Davidson | 11/21/05

Have you ever read the GPL? rpmyers1 | 11/21/05

Yes, once Loverock Davidson | 11/21/05

Re: Yes, once none none | 11/21/05

Not really John L. Ries | 11/21/05

What is it they don't get? Middle of the Road | 11/21/05

Sounds to me DemonX | 11/21/05

Time to overhaul the EULA Boot_Agnostic | 11/21/05

Agree comletely CobraA1 | 11/21/05

I would figure some ISPs have the disks Boot_Agnostic | 11/21/05

You certainly have the right to change your EULA No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Re: You certainly have the right to change your EULA none none | 11/21/05

There you go, a golden market opportunity. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Correct Boot_Agnostic | 11/21/05

And it would seem that Javacoolsoftware has something very close Boot_Agnostic | 11/25/05

here is my eula, it overrides a eula linuxoverwindows | 11/21/05

Those who benefit DemonX | 11/21/05

Write your congressman theoldman59 | 11/21/05

When have you ever... Doc Farmer | 11/21/05

The bottom line ? they want to force us to live according to the principle Vily Clay | 11/21/05

I have an honest question? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Not with CD rpmyers1 | 11/21/05

Not in the real world. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

CD logo rpmyers1 | 11/21/05

Did the Sony CDs carry the logo? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Effect of the Sony DRM rpmyers1 | 11/21/05

Of course there is. DRM on the MoBo No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Re: Of course there is. DRM on the MoBo none none | 11/21/05

none none, please explain. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Re: none none, please explain. none none | 11/21/05

How many users ever look for the logo? No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

I doubt anyone cares about the logo.` B.O.F.H. | 11/21/05

CD's do have a few different formats. B.O.F.H. | 11/21/05

So what? Tim Patterson | 11/21/05

Poor tim, I ask a simple question and he climbs in the gutter No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Not poor at all Bit Tim Patterson | 11/21/05

I think I see the problem. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

No you don't Bit Tim Patterson | 11/21/05

Again, I think I understand your confusion. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Right Bit Tim Patterson | 11/21/05

My point is No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

I hope this is an honest answer paulg57 | 11/21/05

Not quite true. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Not quite true TokyoPete | 11/25/05

I would have to inquire into your suppositions Boot_Agnostic | 11/21/05

I assume yiu've read the headlines, consumers don't care. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

I asume you've read the headlines etc. TokyoPete | 11/25/05

DRM: text ray.parrott@... | 11/21/05

HDMI cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05

Everything is a GAME!!! Yes even life is a game. Laff | 11/21/05

My Rules cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05

Jim. lots of convicts had the same view point. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Here Bit Tim Patterson | 11/21/05

And tree huggers are cetain the world is dying. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Actually many of our founders knew that owning humans Laff | 11/21/05

Hmmm, the key word, "political sacrifices:... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Perhaps there are times to compromise and then there Laff | 11/21/05

And no one really likes a compromise. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Ah but what if it's only called a compromize and in truth Laff | 11/21/05

Funny, RIAA says the same thing... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

OK...one is a real complaint the other is hollow and based Laff | 11/21/05

We agree on one critical point, inform the consumer. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Well that is my point ....informing the consumer about Laff | 11/21/05

True but oddly enough the same can be said for out Laff | 11/21/05

Or broke and in jail... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Ah but what the history books do not often tell us Laff | 11/21/05

Nope, they just wanted to avoid the tax... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Not many people mind a tax as long as it's reasonable Laff | 11/21/05

Hmmm, reasonable, Ok but I get to be the judge of what is reasonable. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

We have moved to a convenience model. cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05

who has the right? paulg57 | 11/21/05

Sorry but you are dead wrong. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

We have moved to a convenience model. cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05

They download broadcast tv shows and they.. cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05

Yup, until the content owners start using MS DRM. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/05

Don is right on this ... George Mitchell | 11/21/05

Almost, but think smaller. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Just the beginning of failures for DRM ... George Mitchell | 11/21/05

Ax yor DRM solutions seem to be a trainwreck?? cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05

Your dead wrong... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

Ax yor DRM solutions seem to be a trainwreck?? cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05

You can make any new media form you want Boot_Agnostic | 11/21/05

We agree in part... No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05

ME and only ME. Period. End of story. BitTwiddler | 11/21/05

Ax, DRM has not worked as well as you said cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05

I haven't seen any MS DRM broken. No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/05

Someone uses MS DRM? Laff | 11/22/05

Not any more mattmass | 11/21/05

Starforce is worse!!!! jimrad1 | 11/21/05

Most people don't seem to care Tubalcain | 11/21/05

Owner is controller! hgh9mrp@... | 11/23/05

Two things of note from the discussion .. jezter~ | 11/23/05

No one has the right to control my PC linux_for_me | 11/23/05

RE: No one has the right to control my PC by linux_for_me Betelgeuse58 | 11/23/05

What's next? Neuromage | 11/23/05

you never had control owlland@... | 11/23/05

Why are we even discussing this? wilrodx@... | 11/25/05

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