If they'd known
Bill4 | 11/21/05
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HDMI
cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05
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If they'd known
Bill4 | 11/21/05
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My Computer, My Rules
rpmyers1 | 11/21/05
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Sorry buy your wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Which is why it hasn't been purchased
rpmyers1 | 11/21/05
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Doesn't matter...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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See my response to Loverock
rpmyers1 | 11/21/05
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But the point is, you do folloow their rules, not just yours
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Follow the Law, not their rules
rpmyers1 | 11/21/05
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Why ignore half the post?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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May I assume you agree with me?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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What Linus Torvalds actually said about DRM and Linux
B.O.F.H. | 11/21/05
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False
John L. Ries | 11/21/05
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No Don I would say he is right...
Linux Advocate | 11/21/05
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Not at all.
osreinstall | 11/21/05
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No Control
Tim Patterson | 11/21/05
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You do realize
Loverock Davidson | 11/21/05
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You mean...
Tim Patterson | 11/21/05
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GPL is just one example
Loverock Davidson | 11/21/05
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Thanks
Tim Patterson | 11/21/05
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You're welcome
Loverock Davidson | 11/21/05
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Have you ever read the GPL?
rpmyers1 | 11/21/05
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Yes, once
Loverock Davidson | 11/21/05
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Re: Yes, once
none none | 11/21/05
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Not really
John L. Ries | 11/21/05
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What is it they don't get?
Middle of the Road | 11/21/05
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Sounds to me
DemonX | 11/21/05
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Time to overhaul the EULA
Boot_Agnostic | 11/21/05
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Agree comletely
CobraA1 | 11/21/05
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I would figure some ISPs have the disks
Boot_Agnostic | 11/21/05
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You certainly have the right to change your EULA
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Re: You certainly have the right to change your EULA
none none | 11/21/05
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There you go, a golden market opportunity.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Correct
Boot_Agnostic | 11/21/05
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And it would seem that Javacoolsoftware has something very close
Boot_Agnostic | 11/25/05
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here is my eula, it overrides a eula
linuxoverwindows | 11/21/05
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Those who benefit
DemonX | 11/21/05
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Write your congressman
theoldman59 | 11/21/05
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When have you ever...
Doc Farmer | 11/21/05
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The bottom line ? they want to force us to live according to the principle
Vily Clay | 11/21/05
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I have an honest question?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Not with CD
rpmyers1 | 11/21/05
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Not in the real world.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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CD logo
rpmyers1 | 11/21/05
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Did the Sony CDs carry the logo?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Effect of the Sony DRM
rpmyers1 | 11/21/05
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Of course there is. DRM on the MoBo
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Re: Of course there is. DRM on the MoBo
none none | 11/21/05
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none none, please explain.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Re: none none, please explain.
none none | 11/21/05
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How many users ever look for the logo?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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I doubt anyone cares about the logo.`
B.O.F.H. | 11/21/05
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CD's do have a few different formats.
B.O.F.H. | 11/21/05
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So what?
Tim Patterson | 11/21/05
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Poor tim, I ask a simple question and he climbs in the gutter
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Not poor at all Bit
Tim Patterson | 11/21/05
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I think I see the problem.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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No you don't Bit
Tim Patterson | 11/21/05
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Again, I think I understand your confusion.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Right Bit
Tim Patterson | 11/21/05
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My point is
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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I hope this is an honest answer
paulg57 | 11/21/05
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Not quite true.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Not quite true
TokyoPete | 11/25/05
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I would have to inquire into your suppositions
Boot_Agnostic | 11/21/05
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I assume yiu've read the headlines, consumers don't care.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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I asume you've read the headlines etc.
TokyoPete | 11/25/05
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DRM: text
ray.parrott@... | 11/21/05
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HDMI
cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05
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Everything is a GAME!!! Yes even life is a game.
Laff | 11/21/05
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My Rules
cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05
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Jim. lots of convicts had the same view point.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Here Bit
Tim Patterson | 11/21/05
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And tree huggers are cetain the world is dying.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Actually many of our founders knew that owning humans
Laff | 11/21/05
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Hmmm, the key word, "political sacrifices:...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Perhaps there are times to compromise and then there
Laff | 11/21/05
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And no one really likes a compromise.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Ah but what if it's only called a compromize and in truth
Laff | 11/21/05
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Funny, RIAA says the same thing...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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OK...one is a real complaint the other is hollow and based
Laff | 11/21/05
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We agree on one critical point, inform the consumer.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Well that is my point ....informing the consumer about
Laff | 11/21/05
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Well that is my point ....informing the consumer about
Laff | 11/21/05
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True but oddly enough the same can be said for out
Laff | 11/21/05
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Or broke and in jail...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Ah but what the history books do not often tell us
Laff | 11/21/05
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Nope, they just wanted to avoid the tax...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Not many people mind a tax as long as it's reasonable
Laff | 11/21/05
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Hmmm, reasonable, Ok but I get to be the judge of what is reasonable.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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We have moved to a convenience model.
cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05
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who has the right?
paulg57 | 11/21/05
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Sorry but you are dead wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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We have moved to a convenience model.
cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05
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They download broadcast tv shows and they..
cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05
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Yup, until the content owners start using MS DRM.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/05
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Don is right on this ...
George Mitchell | 11/21/05
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Almost, but think smaller.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Just the beginning of failures for DRM ...
George Mitchell | 11/21/05
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Ax yor DRM solutions seem to be a trainwreck??
cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05
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Your dead wrong...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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Ax yor DRM solutions seem to be a trainwreck??
cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05
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You can make any new media form you want
Boot_Agnostic | 11/21/05
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We agree in part...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/21/05
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ME and only ME. Period. End of story.
BitTwiddler | 11/21/05
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Ax, DRM has not worked as well as you said
cyber-shoplifter | 11/21/05
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I haven't seen any MS DRM broken.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/22/05
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Someone uses MS DRM?
Laff | 11/22/05
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Not any more
mattmass | 11/21/05
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Starforce is worse!!!!
jimrad1 | 11/21/05
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Most people don't seem to care
Tubalcain | 11/21/05
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Owner is controller!
hgh9mrp@... | 11/23/05
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Two things of note from the discussion ..
jezter~ | 11/23/05
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No one has the right to control my PC
linux_for_me | 11/23/05
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RE: No one has the right to control my PC by linux_for_me
Betelgeuse58 | 11/23/05
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What's next?
Neuromage | 11/23/05
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you never had control
owlland@... | 11/23/05
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Why are we even discussing this?
wilrodx@... | 11/25/05
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Why are we even discussing this?
wilrodx@... | 11/25/05
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