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what no Apple fanboy rhetoric this time
peter? Normally you at least make a stab even when the story has nothing to do with it.
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Sensationalistic title  rapson | 10/14/05
The idea is...  Qbt | 10/14/05
If you change the default settings thereby screwing up the back door,  Update victim | 10/17/05
it affects XP Home, you *CAN'T* change permissions in XPHome  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
what?  doh123 | 10/17/05
explain how then since I don't get how to  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
It's not as full-featured  java.user | 10/17/05
XP Home Permissions  biomedr | 10/18/05
Problems explained  poocow666 | 10/14/05
Your facts to support this...  ye | 10/15/05
and your facts are where ye? (nt)  stormdoor | 10/16/05
For what?  ye | 10/16/05
On My Network!  The King's Servant | 10/17/05
More BS from the anti-Microsoft zealots  ye | 10/17/05
So everyone having "Read Access" is securing my data? (NT)  The King's Servant | 10/17/05
Ignore the (NT) on last post. Text is present.  The King's Servant | 10/17/05
Do you even understand the issue?  ye | 10/17/05
There's nothing for you to correct.  ye | 10/17/05
sensitive data security  plawler | 10/17/05
"ye" you're clueless  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Then this isn't your problem.  ye | 10/17/05
Or perhaps MS is wrong  mds_z | 10/17/05
Then feel free to provide facts to support...  ye | 10/17/05
Why provide facts?  Linux Advocate | 10/17/05
Opinions are not facts...  ye | 10/17/05
I like this better  Squawkbox | 10/14/05
Well...  rapson | 10/15/05
I like this better (2)  radiospu | 10/17/05
Please Press Any Key......  Elekt | 10/17/05
About the Keyboard thing  mastercko | 11/01/05
Journalism Lite  broper | 10/16/05
No need to worry...  figgle | 10/17/05
Precautionary measure?  borimar | 10/17/05
Firing Illegal???  PanamaVet | 10/17/05
Re: Borimar  firerant | 10/17/05
7.5  The King's Servant | 10/17/05
7.0....  s_gamgee | 10/18/05
How about "public relations downplay"  The King's Servant | 10/17/05
got you to click and get Barracuda to pay ZDNet, didn't they?  mlindl | 10/17/05
Agreed  kjglover | 10/18/05
This kind of flaw does wreak havoc  cgraham_z | 11/03/05
Message has been deleted.  realitycheck101 | 10/14/05
Seriously  Qbt | 10/14/05
what no Apple fanboy rhetoric this time  Monkey_MCSE | 10/14/05
He's a Linux man now  poocow666 | 10/15/05
he should try the Breazy Badger  Monkey_MCSE | 10/15/05
you mean kind of like you just did? (nt)  el1jones | 10/15/05
just asking about his normal comments  Monkey_MCSE | 10/15/05
Message has been deleted.  b.d.hi | 10/15/05
YEAHRIGHT, please go back on your medication  ConradPoitras@... | 10/14/05
On second thought, get off the booze...  ConradPoitras@... | 10/14/05
So which flavor of windows is your favorite  Boot_Agnostic | 10/14/05
You need a checkup from the neckup.  osreinstall | 10/14/05
You again?!?!  OfficeDev | 10/17/05
Ok OD, I'll Bite...  tbbrickster_z | 10/17/05
Message has been deleted.  Linux Advocate | 10/17/05
Got it... (nt)  tbbrickster_z | 10/18/05
Dang ZDNet, I DID Ask What it Meant!!!  tbbrickster_z | 10/18/05
Yep it is me.  osreinstall | 10/17/05
Nice!  OfficeDev | 10/19/05
That is right Bubba  osreinstall | 10/19/05
Nice try!  OfficeDev | 10/20/05
When are you going to quit whining?  osreinstall | 10/20/05
I fully agree  IT Scion | 10/14/05
WTF?  Elekt | 10/14/05
programmers  Scott W | 10/15/05
Is it your contention that...  ye | 10/15/05
ye, stop trying to put words  stormdoor | 10/16/05
Where did I put words in his mouth?  ye | 10/16/05
When you implied...  mds_z | 10/17/05
Again: Please note that I asked a question.  ye | 10/17/05
THAT'S RIGHT!  s_gamgee | 10/18/05
Re: "WTF?"  metilley@... | 10/15/05
And you have always delivered perfect software?  jmchugh@... | 10/17/05
If what you claim is true...  Elekt | 10/17/05
Then why..  mastercko | 11/01/05
MS doesn't test software very well  cgraham_z | 11/03/05
OK, now, just breathe deeply...  dsentman@... | 10/15/05
Get a life.  Grayson Peddie | 10/15/05
So do you...  Linux User 147560 | 10/15/05
No problems here  rapson | 10/15/05
Slight issue  Trevor_G | 10/17/05
so linux, bsd, and mac aren't capable of the same  bobjones68@... | 10/16/05
yes, but it hasn't happened to freebsd / apple/ linux  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
to define the scope of this boo boo.....  JoeMama_z | 10/14/05
Hey, how about giving me a solution...  The King's Servant | 10/17/05
Ok.....  JoeMama_z | 10/17/05
You're wrong  william.landaeta@... | 10/17/05
It doesn't matter...  ye | 10/17/05
Jesus don't you get it "ye" XP Home CAN'T CHANGE PERMISSIONS  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
half true....  JoeMama_z | 10/17/05
What I get, if you're to be believed...  ye | 10/17/05
"whining"  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
That would be fine it that's all you did...  ye | 10/17/05
AFAIK the system is pretty standard configuration  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Apparently not...  ye | 10/17/05
No, I restored to a system restore point prior to the update  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
So is it your position that the problem...  ye | 10/17/05
Goddamit Ye READ the article paragraph 2  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
I have...  ye | 10/17/05
sometimes bad things happen an no-one is at fault  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Yet that's exactly what the anti-Microsoft zealots...  ye | 10/17/05
HOGWASH!  william.landaeta@... | 10/19/05
We're still testing the patch  toadlife | 10/14/05
wrong.  The King's Servant | 10/17/05
Let me get this straight  gardoglee | 10/17/05
Sorry to hear that  toadlife | 10/17/05
The Who's Who of ZDNET posts...  314 | 10/17/05
LOL  java.user | 10/17/05
Guess I'll have to look up the fix on my Linux system!  bjdtis@... | 10/15/05
Mod Parent Up  poocow666 | 10/15/05
Still waiting for one.  DpuTiger | 10/15/05
Yeah but  Linux User 147560 | 10/15/05
YMMV means Your Mileage May Vary  mastercko | 11/01/05
I love it  donjohn@... | 10/15/05
streamlining  Scott W | 10/15/05
same here  Scott W | 10/15/05
I have 8 PCs...  bjdtis@... | 10/15/05
should try www.opensuse.org  doh123 | 10/17/05
Finally!  joshuajacobson@... | 10/15/05
Safe at any cost  NobodyHome | 10/15/05
Worked OK on two machine's  robertjvan | 10/15/05
OS Hard Drive  wv1955@... | 10/15/05
noobish users  Scott W | 10/15/05
How did this happen?  ye | 10/15/05
You said it yourself  Linux User 147560 | 10/16/05
Is this the best you can do?  ye | 10/16/05
See there you go again!  Linux User 147560 | 10/16/05
Don't be such a martyr.  ye | 10/16/05
Ye, it was your observation  voska | 10/17/05
The words I used were just words.  ye | 10/17/05
you just did boil all three down to single word characterisations  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Correcting others does not make me a zealot.  ye | 10/17/05
What?  A_Pickle | 10/17/05
Flawed analogy  baggins_z | 10/15/05
OS Hard Drive  rptasiuk | 10/17/05
Windows - Another Gates/Ballmer Disaster  metilley@... | 10/15/05
How is this Microsoft's fault?  ye | 10/15/05
Not MS fault?  Justcauz | 10/16/05
Irrelavent...  ye | 10/16/05
Not microsoft's falt?  mitlarc | 10/17/05
Trying to be helpful...  ye | 10/17/05
It IS MS's fault  Dr_Zinj | 10/17/05
You can whine all you want...  ye | 10/17/05
What?  Patrick Jones | 10/17/05
Because...  ye | 10/17/05
Well...  Patrick Jones | 10/17/05
Then you need to investigate why...  ye | 10/17/05
I don't blame Microsoft for my actions..  Patrick Jones | 10/17/05
Sure you are.  ye | 10/17/05
You are joking, right?  Patrick Jones | 10/17/05
Please note where I said...  ye | 10/17/05
And please note where I said..  Patrick Jones | 10/17/05
Already noted and it's irrelavent...  ye | 10/17/05
No, it is not irrelevant  Patrick Jones | 10/18/05
It is irrelavent...  ye | 10/18/05
You must be some kind of idiot MSHOME can't change permissions  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
What you say doesn't make sense...  ye | 10/17/05
so what's your solution?  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
The solution is not to expect Microsoft to fix...  ye | 10/17/05
Let's Not Defend an Indefensible Position  ProfKing | 10/19/05
Ummm,...ya  lt_poncho@... | 10/17/05
Worked here just fine..  Mike Cox | 10/15/05
Pizza Money  justmeinok@... | 10/16/05
Mike would respond...  nucrash | 10/17/05
Same here  nucrash | 10/17/05
5  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/17/05
3 it was ok  linuxoverwindows | 10/17/05
4.0, Notre Dame Loss Must Have Gotcha Down (nt)  tbbrickster_z | 10/17/05
How much does M$ pay you?  rupix | 10/21/05
Sounds pretty serious to me  node357 | 10/15/05
Again?!!!"  davechilds_2000@... | 10/15/05
You make this sound as if this...  ye | 10/15/05
Well if history  Linux User 147560 | 10/16/05
Then you shouldn't have any problem listing...  ye | 10/16/05
Okay!  Linux User 147560 | 10/16/05
I didn't think you could.  ye | 10/16/05
No_Axe_to_Grind?  Linux User 147560 | 10/16/05
Thanks for proving that Microsoft is not...  ye | 10/16/05
I don't need to prove anything  Linux User 147560 | 10/16/05
Sure you do.  ye | 10/16/05
Fine:  Linux User 147560 | 10/16/05
They were links  voska | 10/17/05
Of course they are  Boot_Agnostic | 10/17/05
Again: I didn't think so.  ye | 10/17/05
Because...  ye | 10/17/05
That's pretty good...but...  lawryll@... | 10/17/05
Wouldn't a Sharp Stick work better? NT  Trevor_G | 10/17/05
Fine! for starters, Win2kSP4.  The King's Servant | 10/17/05
Oh please...  ye | 10/17/05
Service pack/patch  The King's Servant | 10/17/05
Everything you say...  ye | 10/17/05
No I haven't  Linux User 147560 | 10/17/05
So you keep saying...  ye | 10/17/05
Where do you live?  Linux User 147560 | 10/17/05
Please show me where I ever said...  ye | 10/17/05
back tracking are we now, ye?  mdsmedia | 10/17/05
What cartwheels?  ye | 10/17/05
you can't see that you're a zealot  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
The plain fact that the patch combined...  ye | 10/17/05
I have more faith in Microsoft  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Keep spinning  LoCal | 10/17/05
Unless that financial and medical information...  ye | 10/17/05
Thanks alot MS!! My PC is jacked up!!!  DancinKatieh@... | 10/15/05
Message has been deleted.  toadlife | 10/15/05
Oh thats really intelligent...  DancinKatieh@... | 10/15/05
You're welcome  toadlife | 10/15/05
One note...  toadlife | 10/15/05
toadlife needs one, too  node357 | 10/15/05
It's hard here at Zdnet  Boot_Agnostic | 10/16/05
The verdict from a SANS security expert...  Zogg | 10/17/05
Apologise for what?  debitaylor | 10/17/05
Toadlife's message to Katieh was offensive enough to get deleted.  Zogg | 10/18/05
Well Actually...  Trevor_G | 10/18/05
Ah grasshopper...  ArtMac | 10/17/05
Patch hasn't been out a week...  ye | 10/15/05
This activity start on Tuesday...  DancinKatieh@... | 10/15/05
Did you try following the advice given...  ye | 10/15/05
Restore...  Seymour6669_z | 10/15/05
RE: Restore...  DancinKatieh@... | 10/17/05
PC Lock out  LordUthyr | 10/15/05
Windows PE to the rescue  Aknot | 10/17/05
Two whom it may concern  Justcauz | 10/16/05
Solve your headaches here  Linux User 147560 | 10/16/05
P.S.  java.user | 10/17/05
Did someone beat on the woodwork again? NT  Trevor_G | 10/17/05
Skilled hacker? New OS!  Fernando_z | 10/17/05
Uh...  ArtMac | 10/17/05
OK it was more of a joke  Justcauz | 10/17/05
need a hacker 2  pris_z | 10/21/05
www.apple.com  ITGuy04 | 10/24/05
Critical Windows patch may wreak PC havoc  otisrivers@... | 10/16/05
Just remember a point release of your fav program  Boot_Agnostic | 10/16/05
I wasted hours on my kids pc last night because of this  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
"fix" is useless for xp home  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Thank you  nocturne6@... | 10/17/05
best thing to do to "fix" it for now  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
This is why...  dsentman@... | 10/17/05
Difficult to do when...  ye | 10/17/05
I suspect a troll...  ye | 10/17/05
troll ????  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Re "troll ????" - yep, and a clueless one at that...  Scrat | 10/17/05
I didn't know that but that doesn't make me a troll  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Did you ever stop to think...  ye | 10/17/05
Looks like you didn't stop to think here. here you blame the user  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
SANS blames the user too...  ye | 10/17/05
SANS did NOT blame the user.  Zogg | 10/17/05
There's no need to tighten these permissions...  ye | 10/17/05
Ask Mr Adusumilli.  Zogg | 10/18/05
I didn't see Mr. Adusumilli recommend...  ye | 10/18/05
Mr Adusumilli didn't recommend AGAINST the changes either.  Zogg | 10/18/05
not true  william.landaeta@... | 10/17/05
Then this isn't your problem...  ye | 10/17/05
You are totally wrong.  william.landaeta@... | 06/21/06
HAH! "Ye" Be the Troll! (nt)  tbbrickster_z | 10/17/05
Permission are supposed to be modified  voska | 10/17/05
except on xp home you can't change permissions  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Yes you can.....  Scrat | 10/17/05
Oh dear...  Scrat | 10/17/05
so all these people logged in in safe mode and screwed their settings  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
No...it just means that you're clueless about Windows.  ye | 10/17/05
see the link in my reply above. In the link YOU BLAME THE USER  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Doesn't change the fact that this is not...  ye | 10/17/05
Just because something can be done...  ye | 10/17/05
and here you BLAME THE USER  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Doesn't change the fact that it's not...  ye | 10/17/05
I'm not blaming MS. The issue is how to fix broken PCs  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
As you've already said...  ye | 10/17/05
are you affiliated with microsoft, if not, then as I am a ms customer  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Please point out where I said...  ye | 10/17/05
I totally agree, this is one screw up in a long time. Cut MS a break.  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Fortunately it wasn't Microsoft's fault...  ye | 10/17/05
hours?  william.landaeta@... | 10/17/05
This is the 3rd consecutive year of the same problem  whisperycat | 10/17/05
Sigh...  dsentman@... | 10/17/05
Double sigh  whisperycat | 10/18/05
Typical  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/17/05
M$ srtikes again....  tslocum7 | 10/17/05
Flaw with Patch  degarbey@... | 10/17/05
Windows patch  tvm | 10/17/05
he he he...  daver_z | 10/17/05
No no: they have been investing in  michael_t | 10/17/05
litigation litigation litigation  ironfist03 | 10/17/05
Hmm, could you show us...  Scrat | 10/17/05
to modify default directory permissions?  tedman | 10/17/05
Permissions on /etc/shadow...  ye | 10/17/05
First  Linux Advocate | 10/17/05
Just as I thought...  ye | 10/17/05
Agreed  java.user | 10/17/05
Oops, not chmod  java.user | 10/17/05
Actuall you are wrong  Linux Advocate | 10/17/05
Actuall you are wrong  Linux Advocate | 10/17/05
Where are these "thousands of resonable responses"?  ye | 10/17/05
re: Actuall you are wrong  java.user | 10/17/05
MS should have known better  tedman | 10/17/05
They wouldn't have had a problem if...  ye | 10/17/05
Apparently you are not an IT, programmer  tedman | 10/17/05
What are you trying to say?  ye | 10/17/05
...  sir_cheats_a_lot | 10/19/05
As always, you could have and can buy differently  Boot_Agnostic | 10/17/05
People by in large do not buy an operating system!  jmchugh@... | 10/17/05
Well said...  spdrcrtob | 10/17/05
New Patch  carlosc05 | 10/17/05
I predicted this years ago  George Jay | 10/17/05
Well, we have a proper Nostradamus here...  Scrat | 10/17/05
Dual boot Windows machines  Ngallendou | 10/17/05
Average User  DonG43 | 10/17/05
Unlikely...  ye | 10/17/05
Unless...  Michael Kelly | 10/17/05
Then the mistake lies with the "expert" and not...  ye | 10/17/05
You are very wrong  tedman | 10/17/05
Who experienced a problem?  Winfan | 10/17/05
Scenario?  Scrat | 10/17/05
non-issue  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Why did you spend a few hours?  ye | 10/17/05
maybe it was an antivirus program or something *I DON'T KNOW*  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Of course you don't know...  ye | 10/17/05
about 50 times I said I didn't blame them, you keep saying I do  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Sure you are...  ye | 10/17/05
Microsoft ooooh Microsoft ye be cursed forever...  computeroutlet | 10/17/05
Unix again  Krazyken39 | 10/17/05
Oh, good  ryworld61 | 10/17/05
Yeah....  Krazyken39 | 10/17/05
Not if you are locked out  Reverend MacFellow | 10/17/05
Just What Is M$'s Problem?  EBathory | 10/17/05
THE SKY IS FALLING!!  jdervin | 10/17/05
Tell that to my users!  The King's Servant | 10/17/05
No Patch Problems Any More No Windows  oisleach@... | 10/17/05
Now it seems, MS has found the way...  ArtMac | 10/17/05
easy fix get rid of NTFS...  Idgaf | 10/17/05
Working  hoardo | 10/17/05
Another MS blunder???  AnnDroid1 | 10/17/05
too hard  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
ok, ok, ok  hoardo | 10/17/05
Sensational Headlines  lylesonbob | 10/17/05
Cure = Roxio/Norton GoBack  Schweizer | 10/17/05
No problems  Tico_z | 10/17/05
It's just a rat race.  papatator | 10/17/05
LOL Broke IE, who cares?  NotMSUser | 10/17/05
More bull crap from MS  rickhnelson@... | 10/17/05
Here's Whatcha Can Do...  tbbrickster_z | 10/17/05
Wow...bloat anyone?  Scrat | 10/17/05
Your Kidding, Right !?!  tbbrickster_z | 10/18/05
Nope, but you must be....  Scrat | 10/19/05
My Reply...  tbbrickster_z | 10/19/05
MS AntiSpyware  Shutterbug | 11/01/05
ZASS  sir_cheats_a_lot | 10/19/05
Amazed MS kept their nose clean this long  tedman | 10/17/05
Let's Not Forget DOS 3.X and XP SP2  tbbrickster_z | 10/17/05
Updates are worse than any worm  tedman | 10/17/05
A few corrections  java.user | 10/17/05
You are addressing two messages  tedman | 10/18/05
I know  java.user | 10/18/05
Worked Fine  amcguire72 | 10/17/05
why have autoupdate on???  hipparchus2000 | 10/17/05
Your right.  Cayble | 12/29/05
Symantec Ghost for Such Issues  tbbrickster_z | 10/17/05
Keep It Simple Stupid  ncouture@... | 10/17/05
KISS?  Scrat | 10/17/05
windows patch  willyp_z | 10/17/05
MS05-051 patch  karen_ohm1@... | 10/17/05
There should be a jumper on the Motherboard  IT-sys | 10/17/05
And if there isn't a jumper...  tbbrickster_z | 10/18/05
Jumper? What?  Shutterbug | 11/01/05
What an entirely dumb statement...  BitTwiddler | 10/17/05
Not from my end...  wayww | 10/17/05
This had me down for a week!!!!  chef29 | 10/17/05
Are you still using windows? Then your stuck on stupid.  teckk@... | 10/17/05
It's You're stupid, stupido  Winfan | 10/19/05
Microsoft's newest update - Blah !  sharkvette75@... | 10/17/05
Bonanza for Barracuda!  broper | 10/17/05
MS mistake?  Recce1 | 10/17/05
Windows Patch Problems  jrmtay@... | 10/17/05
Critical Disaster  foxie9876 | 10/17/05
Its good to know my PC is protected... even from me... sad  Summerbreeze_43 | 10/17/05
Microsoft is LIABLE for it's products  IT-sys | 10/17/05
Most action law suits money goes to lawyers  tedman | 10/17/05
deja vu  robtomba | 10/17/05
Win Patch  hdwhit@... | 10/17/05
Patches and Replys  kb0lkt@... | 10/17/05
"And tho the holes were rather small...  s_gamgee | 10/18/05
Just joined this site and ready to leave again  Hc1957 | 10/18/05
MS clarification  ed_mac | 10/18/05
MS still working out of the basement?  jpb@... | 10/18/05
Critical Windows patch may wreak PC havoc  PhoenixStorm26 | 10/18/05
Sorry ya'll got burned, so how many of you did  Boot_Agnostic | 10/18/05
FLAWS AND SKYPE SHOULD SERVE AS A WAKE UP CALL  fakir005@... | 10/18/05
Bad Windows patch  wilko13 | 10/18/05
Windows 98 SE: oldie but a goodie  rogernob | 10/18/05
Back to 98SE  TokyoPete | 11/02/05
Windows 98SE an oldie, but a goodie  PekinDude | 10/18/05
the good old oldie  TokyoPete | 11/02/05
I will not recommend any more Microsoft Solutions  NasirVazir | 10/19/05
Sorry to see you go  Winfan | 10/19/05
This is why I switched to mac.  bradlwlk | 10/20/05
windows patch  tuger | 10/22/05
Good news, bad news  geobeck | 10/24/05
Windows Patch  dreamncolr | 11/02/05
PC havoc using win98  alle2003@... | 11/02/05
Havoc  TokyoPete | 11/02/05
no problems  falcon5050 | 11/02/05
If I could get that far - really poor quality code  m.cushman@... | 11/04/05
Anyone Else Concerned about Reaching "1984?"  TerryGeorge | 12/29/05
Re: Anyone Else Concerned about Reaching "1984?"  coverstreet@... | 12/29/05

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