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Funny how people rehash old quotes from a security firm. Nah, there not trying to sell their wares but when a security company says something towards Apple ...well that's different and unfounded. There's that double standard again.

From Sophos Jul 1 2005:
"There is now a 50% chance of being infected by an internet worm in just 12 minutes of being online using an unprotected, unpatched Windows PC."

They give no support for this and I wonder how their still allowed to spew that given the current SANS survival time.

Then there's the famous and often misquoted report from Thomas Sprinkmeier published by the SANS Institute. His exact quote was this:
"At the time of writing this article, a fresh Microsoft Windows XP install has a survival time of less than 20 minutes"

That was only for XP and pre SP2. Looking at the stats now the survival time has more than tripled from Pre SP2's lowest points. It's now at 39 minutes without applying any security updates and without installing and/or updating any defense apps. Of course SANS also publishes a Pre SP2 guide on how to make the fresh install not get infected at all while you're getting it setup.

And I don't know about all nix but the average survival time for an unprotected and unpatched Unix box is about 1253 minutes. That's great but a tad under "10 days - never"
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Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?  Laff | 09/29/05
I'm never nervous  Squawkbox | 09/29/05
DENIAL doesn't change REALITY !  realitycheck101 | 09/29/05
Well duhhhh  Squawkbox | 09/29/05
More hot air with NO REAL WORLD EXPLOITS  BitTwiddler | 09/29/05
you must be in denial  csa0307 | 09/29/05
apple releasing updates doesn't make your mac crash etc  hipparchus2000 | 09/29/05
Is that why most hackers use Macs?  nucrash | 09/29/05
Ha! Thats funny!  middle of nowhere | 09/29/05
Because there are major differences  ITGuy04 | 09/29/05
Denial, deflections and double standards.  IT Scion | 09/29/05
Not really  ITGuy04 | 09/29/05
Really?  IT Scion | 09/29/05
Macs scare Symantec  Otto_Delete | 09/29/05
For the record  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 09/29/05
U R Correct  Otto_Delete | 09/29/05
Actually YOU sound a bit scared, now  John Zern | 09/29/05
Nope, not scared a bit  Otto_Delete | 09/29/05
Well if you are not being attackes it's hard to be  Laff | 09/29/05
re: Macs scare Symantec  nightshade0143 | 09/29/05
Huh? Gutted, not on par with? Who has said these  Laff | 09/30/05
I have never had a virus on Mac OS X...  gtdworak | 09/29/05
And your're proof of what Symantec is saying  John Zern | 09/29/05
Consequences  Harry Bardal | 09/29/05
Insight into OS X Code IS freely Available  ChiAny | 09/29/05
Like most of the people here actually LOOKED at the code  John Zern | 09/29/05
Got news for you buddy...  emyulick | 09/29/05
And AutoStart was pre-OSX days...  MacCanuck | 09/29/05
Know more then you think buddy  John Zern | 09/29/05
re: Know more than you think buddy  bgoss@... | 10/01/05
symantec can bite me.  DemonX | 09/29/05
but it wasn't big enough to make the news, and of course, Apple wouldn't te  1macfan | 09/29/05
Same here...  gfeier | 09/29/05
It's sad  IT Scion | 09/29/05
I'm not a Mac user, but if I were  Real World | 09/29/05
MS makes similar remarks  ITGuy04 | 09/29/05
Well ummm they do go public  Squawkbox | 09/29/05
Who said anything about Microsoft? (nt)  Real World | 09/29/05
RE: Who said anything about Microsoft?  Squawkbox | 09/29/05
Roger that, SB  Real World | 09/29/05
So are the two of you going to kiss and make up?  Laff | 09/29/05
Kiss Squawky?  Real World | 09/29/05
No upside down tonguers though. Thanks Jim  Squawkbox | 09/29/05
"Good to see you are OK SB!!!!"  Arm A. Geddon | 09/29/05
Thanks Arm It is good to be back  Squawkbox | 09/29/05
Not really a head in the sand attitude  nucrash | 09/29/05
If you were a Mac user, you would know your post is incorrect  mlindl | 09/30/05
Mac is insekure  b.d.hi | 09/29/05
Show me the REAL WORLD exploits, and then I'll worry...  BitTwiddler | 09/29/05
Make those numbers up, did ye?  John Zern | 09/29/05
We need a Mac version of Mike Cox in here happy  BitTwiddler | 09/29/05
Bwahahahaha Now that WOULD be funny wink  Squawkbox | 09/29/05
Hmm...  Zinoron | 09/29/05
Yes, but how could you be sarcastic  nucrash | 09/29/05
Since...  thetargos | 10/01/05
Sound like they just want to sell more software  DarthRidiculous | 09/29/05
Show me the THREAT  EK. | 09/29/05
This is called pre-emptive preparation  nucrash | 09/29/05
Sorta doubt it  j.m.galvin | 09/29/05
This would be the reason for...  nucrash | 09/29/05
What pre-emptive preparation would you suggest?  tic swayback | 09/29/05
That wasn't meant to be a plug for Symantec  nucrash | 09/29/05
Aren't those things just SOP?  tic swayback | 09/29/05
The last time...  minidriver | 09/29/05
History is repetitive  ibabadur1 | 09/29/05
One problem  bpick_z | 09/29/05
Hmmmm, Symantec....  tic swayback | 09/29/05
re: Hmmmm, Symantec....  nightshade0143 | 09/29/05
How will it help me?  tic swayback | 09/30/05
Symantec is just scared that they live in a glass house  zmud | 09/29/05
Symantec = Nascar restrictor plate  osreinstall | 09/29/05
Auto analogies don't work  Squawkbox | 09/29/05
Hell I can use any analogy known.  osreinstall | 09/29/05
What is really happening...  bpick_z | 09/29/05
You were doing "OK" till  Squawkbox | 09/29/05
Didn't you get the memo?  osreinstall | 09/29/05
AWWWW CRAP  Squawkbox | 09/30/05
MS/Symantec relationship  bpick_z | 09/30/05
They are joined at the hip for a little project back in 1998?  osreinstall | 09/30/05
Look I don't care about any deal(s)  Squawkbox | 09/30/05
Oh yeah and about your proof link  Squawkbox | 09/30/05
What is definitely happening  bpick_z | 09/30/05
Yes bpick  Squawkbox | 10/01/05
Macs are going to get it like every other os  csa0307 | 09/29/05
Riiiiiight....  bpick_z | 09/29/05
you missed the most important part  csa0307 | 09/29/05
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no  csa0307 | 09/29/05
In case you didnt' know...  bpick_z | 09/29/05
Well this issue here is why if you can not name or describe  Laff | 09/29/05
get a clue please  ITGuy04 | 09/29/05
get a clue yourself  csa0307 | 09/29/05
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magic?  docFUNK | 09/29/05
Simple really, not magic at all  bpick_z | 09/29/05
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Hey Doc  John Zern | 09/29/05
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Macs are retarded.  A_Pickle | 09/29/05
You would know  bpick_z | 09/29/05
Enough with the iPod battery FUD  bpick_z | 09/29/05
A_Pickled Moron?  Laff | 09/29/05
So are you  ITGuy04 | 09/29/05
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No Viruses for Mac OSX huh??  Ishkaboo | 09/29/05
Lay off the chocolate, Willy  bpick_z | 09/29/05
Oh OK. Well the windows ones  John Zern | 09/29/05
Fine, as long as you follow his rules  tic swayback | 09/29/05
It's and applescript your dumb @#s  TheCrow_z | 09/29/05
I have a Mac OS X virus!  mbrierley | 09/29/05
Just goes to show...  bpick_z | 09/30/05
Worse  mbrierley | 10/01/05
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huh huh?  javinfo@... | 09/30/05
Symantec just wants our money.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/29/05
Sanitary?????  NucMed | 09/29/05
hmmmm  mbrierley | 09/29/05
Symantec protecting the gravy train.  Andromedat6 | 09/29/05
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