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Patrick, quality doesn't have to be expensive.
Look at the success of Toyota. Japanese car companies were able to gain a share of the US market when the quality of American cars was poor. They're able to hold and increase that share despite improvements in US marque vehicles because they've continued to make well-designed, reliable vehicles.

So good quality assuring a piece of a naturally growing market is far from impossible, even at low cost.


Voska's point about a self-cleaning coffeemaker is good because it shows a feature devised in response to the way people actually use a product. Though the designer is also going to have to assure the solution is not price prohibitive in the intended market.

Built-in obsolescence was rejected when the concept nearly brought down GM and a few appliance manufacturers.
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Involve the ISPs  pbiss | 06/01/05
I agree to a point. However, ISP's tend  bjbrock | 06/02/05
you should say "some" isp's  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Generally, the larger the ISP, the more  bjbrock | 06/02/05
i work for an isp and...  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Sending the problems to another ISP?  Anton Philidor | 06/02/05
My ISP doesn't allow SMTP  voska | 06/02/05
I'll say the public needs to be educated  betelgeuse68 | 06/02/05
Hence the phrase "Flawed by Design".  Xunil_Sierutuf | 06/02/05
Sensible, but...  Anton Philidor | 06/02/05
why do you think my server is on linux?  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Because you like Linux?  Anton Philidor | 06/02/05
nah, i just like linux :P  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Argh! I hate that attitude!!!  voska | 06/02/05
wanna buy a hammer?  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Quality and responsibility.  Anton Philidor | 06/02/05
True..  Patrick Jones | 06/02/05
So they creative incentive  voska | 06/02/05
mac resale vs pc resale  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Then again..  Patrick Jones | 06/02/05
vicious cycle  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Patrick, quality doesn't have to be expensive.  Anton Philidor | 06/02/05
besides...  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Toyota..  Patrick Jones | 06/02/05
i love a quality car  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Why not make one that is self cleaning  voska | 06/02/05
one step further...  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
take the cheaper one...  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
and not to mention...  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
It's a choice  betelgeuse68 | 06/02/05
so true...  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Users will always be dumb.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 06/02/05
idunno  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
In 20 years users will be saavy  pesky_z | 06/02/05
This AIN'T Rocket Science !!!  realitycheck101 | 06/02/05
Start with the small fish and work up.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/05
You have noticed spam is distributed by illegal networks?  Anton Philidor | 06/02/05
Don't bother with the spammers  voska | 06/02/05
moneytalks  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
The US passed a law against spam.  Anton Philidor | 06/02/05
Move to a different --- country --- not company (NT)  Anton Philidor | 06/02/05
Exactlly, we agree completely on this.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/05
Going after the wrong fish Anton...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/05
Mr. X10 says: it's legal to spam you... once.  Anton Philidor | 06/02/05
Follow the money...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/05
going after the wrong phish...  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
btw: i like to  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
Gotta start somewhere.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/02/05
Define SPAM, in legal terms..  Patrick Jones | 06/02/05
spam is...  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
... and soaked for at least 3 days...  Anton Philidor | 06/02/05
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lets go and all wear flame throwers happy nt  linuxoverwindows | 06/02/05
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