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Not TOTALLY at fault - sorry
Iron Mountain most certainly deserves MOST of the blame, but think about this. As an employer you have real people depending on you to make sound judgment; therefore, there are BASIC precautions that MUST be taken in order to protect information. Choosing Iron Mountain was the method that TW chose to protect their offsite backup tapes. But that is only part of the equation. The first replier hit the nail on the head with the encryption thing. How can you NOT choose to encrypt such sensitive data? That IS irresponsible, like it or not. Want a better analogy? Ok, how about this. It's like someone making a credit card transaction or signing on to online banking. No doubt that it is a risk. How is that risk mitigated? With SSL encryption. TW REDUCED the risk of their off-site information being stolen by using Iron Mountain, but they did not plan for the contingency of the tapes being lost or stolen. Nothing in this world is 100% guaranteed, so you almost have to assume that there is at least a chance that the tapes could be intercepted.

Take another look at the IM website quote "...relieves your backup burden - and risk...". Relieves is the key word. They could have used "eliminates", which would have indicated 100%. "Relieves" is not "guaranteed" in any context that I can think of -- close, but not 100%.
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Doh! we use Iron Mountain, too..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 05/02/05
Sounds like "Ocean's 13"!!  schneb | 05/02/05
What?  dj_dj | 05/03/05
Locking the Barn Door ...  dr praetorius | 05/02/05
Locking the Barn Door ...  dr praetorius | 05/02/05
Top 5 causes of tape "theft"  Taz_z | 05/02/05
Should Time Warner Be held responsible?  Edward@... | 05/02/05
Not Time Warner - Iron Mountain  draves@... | 05/02/05
Yes, of course. But...  RichardM_z | 05/02/05
Faulty analogy.  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
Amen  geumber | 05/02/05
Not TOTALLY at fault - sorry  USFbobFL | 05/03/05
Dolts  RichardM_z | 05/02/05
Time Warner looses its mind....  billprast | 05/02/05
Er,... correct me if I am wrong...  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
Wells Fargo  Fitz7600-20418232965191805568259060405736 | 05/02/05
Downhill slide  raven1_z | 05/02/05
Looses?  gemartin | 05/02/05
What dictionary are you using?  cicuta | 05/02/05
Right On! Here is the Encarta def.  USFbobFL | 05/03/05
Neither dictionary defines the extent of the trust  The King's Servant | 05/03/05
Foul Play  volksair | 05/02/05
Gross Negligence! wink (NT)  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
Shame on You  VoiceoReason | 05/02/05
Exactly! That was a stress reducer.  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
Identity data should be treated as a tangible asset  3toedsloth | 05/02/05
Exactly why Iron Mountain is liable.  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
re liability  Llandros Loressin | 05/03/05
I should have said, "responsible". Ne'ertheless...  The King's Servant | 05/03/05
And these folks use "secure" Linux systems  Jazhawk | 05/02/05
Just goes to show you  Michael Kelly | 05/02/05
Data is stored on Databases  QAPro | 05/03/05
Perimeter security AND content security.  djohnson@... | 05/03/05
But in the end  Michael Kelly | 05/03/05
good enough?  djohnson@... | 05/03/05
And that with a dedicated computer. Not cluster.  The King's Servant | 05/03/05
jazhawk  sbarringer@... | 05/04/05
Time Warner at Fault!  chuckbrady | 05/02/05
Agree....mostly  Knomia | 05/03/05
Bulletproof?  Greg_Naber@... | 05/03/05
Security for an organization...  sbarringer@... | 05/04/05
time warner  curleysdaman | 05/02/05
Time Warner data theft  cjones@... | 05/02/05
Are you CRAZY? They brought us ...  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
ON-LINE BACKUP  bossman_z | 05/02/05
How long does it take to send...  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
Online backup is the way forward.  adam007182 | 03/24/06
It is viable for large quantities of data  Balin1900 | 05/08/06
Speaking of Dolts  code_flogger | 05/02/05
TW  juandefuca | 05/02/05
AOL?????????  BBaker7958 | 05/02/05
ISP Security....  sbarringer@... | 05/04/05
Iron Mountain  bobf@... | 05/02/05
Time Warnert's "Loss" of Personal Data  ColeConroy | 05/02/05
ONLY a YEAR?!?  Judas I. | 05/02/05
FREE AOL/FREE CABLE FOR A YEAR!!!!!!!  Fusion_z | 05/03/05
Hokey Smokes Rocky, a NON M$ Report!!!  tbbrickster_z | 05/02/05
Doesn't Fred work at Iron Mountain?  aproctor@... | 05/02/05
Not necessarily. Read my post above.  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
internet backup  uppy | 05/03/05
Full, incremental and differential backups.  The King's Servant | 05/03/05
Tape is still needed for a lot of companies.  Greg_Naber@... | 05/03/05
ceo gerald levin and china  bkn2000 | 05/04/05
Chinese ....  sbarringer@... | 05/04/05
I'm sure that after US$600M plus 10 years in jail...  The King's Servant | 05/04/05
They're all named Fred  sbarringer@... | 05/04/05
The Buck Stops with TW  VoiceoReason | 05/02/05
Time Warner loses tapes  bleslie3@... | 05/02/05
They have learned to Encrypt but anyway...  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
How many tapes were there, exactly?  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
They even advise to encrypt the backups!!  kumchan | 05/02/05
lost tapes for 4 different customers?  capitano1 | 05/02/05
Time Warner  Scribe_z | 05/02/05
...And they have given account.  The King's Servant | 05/02/05
Privacy Backup for *Any* company  walterreads@... | 05/02/05
I know the Culprit  index | 05/02/05
Quick- Someone call ACME Investigations!  smoshlak | 05/02/05
Missed one...  smoshlak | 05/02/05
mishandeling not an option  jwick | 05/02/05
They have and they are.  The King's Servant | 05/03/05
Was it the Back Up only????!!!!!  ugetme247@... | 05/02/05
What's in a tape ?  schmatzp | 05/03/05
quite so  agottschald | 05/03/05
This is beginning to look bigger than a finacial scam  liri_z | 05/03/05
Hmmmm  Edj_z | 05/03/05
Free credit monitoring  USFbobFL | 05/03/05
Sorry, no cigar. MAKE THE TIME  USFbobFL | 05/03/05
Very good post.  The King's Servant | 05/03/05
Time Warner's lack of competence....  pikachodan | 05/03/05
Great. Let's establish a value....  The King's Servant | 05/03/05
Enough already - what about the employees  nickc@... | 05/03/05
FACTA Laws  sdboothe | 05/03/05
Time Warner did not steal - get the thiefs!  agohige | 05/03/05
Classic! IT employees will be scapegoats...  chicaNY | 05/03/05
I agree, partially.  Greg_Naber@... | 05/03/05
Totally true, however...  chicaNY | 05/03/05
Time Warner GooF  Fusion_z | 05/03/05
Somebody is SOOOOO FIRED! (nt)  MepisLINUXuser | 05/03/05
Data for 600,000 Time Warner employees MIA  PhoenixStorm26 | 05/06/05
warner Data lost  Mirzantx@... | 05/09/05
when the terrorist organizations send over a few thousand jihad warriors  wessonjoe | 05/10/05
I once worked for Iron Mountain  kjclassic | 05/15/05

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