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1. Downloaded and took a look at chrome
frgough - 09/02/08
And was immediately struck by just how much annoying advertising crap ZDNet puts on their site.
1.1. Yup . . .
CobraA1 - 09/02/08
Yup. I almost never see those full screen ads in Firefox, it seems like NoScript or AdBlock skips them.
But yeah - fist thing to add to Chrome: The ability selectively block ads.
1.1.1. Sorry...
ZachE84 - 09/02/08
But ad blocking in Chrome will never, ever exist. Think about what you said! Google, a marketing company basically, blocking ads on the web? Comon now.
Chrome has no features, plug ins, etc. The layout is horrible as well. Already un-installed. The problem with Google is it keeps everything simple. No one wants a simple browser.
1.1.1.1. Chrome has no plug-ins?
Grayson Peddie - 09/02/08
Have you downloaded Adobe Flash for Chrome?
1.1.1.1.1. Chrome borrowed it...
eMJayy - 09/02/08
The Adobe flash plug-in (for windows) is shared
between Firefox, Opera, Netscape, Opera and Safari. In
fact, Chrome borrows all it's plug-ins, just as Safari
for windows does. IE7 has it's own active-X plug-in
for flash and other types of media.
1.1.1.1.1.1. You mentioned "Opera," twice.
Grayson Peddie - 09/03/08
But hey, that's good to know!
1.1.1.2. CHANGE IS BAD!
thelivo - 09/02/08 (Edited: 09/02/08 @ 06:29)
You gave it a decent chance then?!
It has no plug ins? - its been out about 15 seconds and is in Beta. If there is one thing that you can guarantee about Google its that it will keep changing and improving daily.
No-one wants a simple browser? You are very very wrong.
1.1.1.2.1. RE: CHANGE IS BAD!
rmlounsbury@... - 09/02/08
I'm with Livo on this one. Lots of people will love
Chrome especially the non-power users like most of us
are.
I'm sure there will be plenty power users out there
that will use Chrome on at least a part-time basis.
Google may have another hit on their hands.
1.1.1.2.1.1. Googles Plan
BlasterNT - 09/03/08
Microsoft: Look at your browser: It has no features
Google: It's in beta
---5 years later----
Microsoft: Look at your browser: It has no features!
Google: It's in beta
1.1.1.2.2. The browser yes but ...
RobinInTheHood - 09/03/08
Everyone wants a simple browser that is fully functional
Why is it that, in the computer world, simple always seems to equal 'less functional'? anyone esle ever notice that?
At any rate, if you cannot block ads then I will not use it. I hate ads and consider them an intrusion on my web surfing experiences
1.1.1.3. Yes, keep it bloated and complicated!
TedKraan - 09/03/08
the opposite of the K.I.S.S. principle! Brilliant!
2. Inadvertently? I vote on purpose.
CobraA1 - 09/02/08
Inadvertently? I vote on purpose. I'd believe "inadvertently" if Chrome were released a month later - but a day later? No, that's gotta be on purpose. They wanted to get the word out, and there's no better way than to "leak" some material and make it appear like a blunder.
3. RE: First look at Google Chrome
JeremyEdmiston - 09/02/08 (Edited: 09/02/08 @ 01:30)
I like what I have seen - and even started a visual
tweak - all 'chrome' UI is stored in
themes/default.dll
Here's my tweaked version:
jeremyedmiston.com/chrome/default.dll
Screenshot: (Crude)
jeremyedmiston.com/chrome/GoogleChromeChanged.jpg
4. Try it in Vista
charlie.mas - 09/02/08
Your screen shots don't quite do it justice, at least not for prospesctive Vista users. The blue bar in which the tabs site in XP is an Areo Glass effect in Vista. Its semi translucent and looks really quite smart, much better than it does on XP. To be honest its the first time I have seen the Glass effect used in a way that makes me think its a really worth while feature.
Perhaps Google has done Microsoft a favor, well on second thoughts probably not. I have a feeling this may be a day we look back on as a key point in the history of the computer, when cloud computing really become practical.
4.1. Yup, very cool use of Aero Glass.
CobraA1 - 09/02/08
Indeed, it does seem to take advantage of Glass in a very cool way .
5. RE: First look at Google Chrome
ricstorms@... - 09/02/08
I'm enjoying playing around a bit with Chrome, but
I've had one issue. I cannot use Logmein.com as it
says I need to have Java or ActiveX enabled to use
remote access in any usable way. I know IE uses
ActiveX, but I was using the site just fine with
Firefox 3. For all the hullabaloo in their little
comic about working better with Java, it doesn't seem
to be working. I tried to reinstall Java, but I get
the same result. (I do love the download interface in
Chrome, it keeps the download in the one tab so I
don't have to see it the other tabs I have open) I
hate to sound like a moron, but how do I enable Java?
I've looked into the options screen, but still can't
get it going. Still for a beta release I didn't even
hear about until 24 hours ago, its pretty impressive
(the logo stinks though). Can't wait to see the Linux
version.
6. RE: First look at Google Chrome
GaryLittle - 09/02/08
I've just tried using Chrome on my interactive map site
(at www.GaryLittle.ca ). This map plots over 700
properties on a Google map and makes extensive use
of JavaScript. Chrome's Javascript performance is
absolutely incredible -- panning the map, even when
all 700 properties are displayed (by zooming out far
enough) is very smooth and responsive. I'm very
impressed.
7. RE: First look at Google Chrome
super_J - 09/02/08
So far, I'm very very impressed. Chrome is lightning
fast, both in terms of startup and the UI, and in
terms of page rendering. It leaves Safari, Firefox,
Opera, and especially IE, in the dust.
I'm also liking the very simple and attractive UI.
And I love the tabs - they're integrated into the the
top bar of the window, causing them to not take up
extra space.
And I read the comic book - funny and informative.
I've loving that each tab is a separate sand-boxed
process, and that it has incremental garbage
collection. And I'm loving that JavaScript get's own
super fast VM, that compiles to machine code (rather
than always interpreting).
Chrome truly represents a big leap in Browser
innovation, and a big leap in the end user experience.
Great stuff, Google!
8. RE: First look at Google Chrome
Grayson Peddie - 09/02/08
Man, you should try Chrome in Vista with Aero Glass!!! 
Oh! After I typed the word "Aero," Google Chrome has a
spell checker!
I found it to be much nicer than Internet Explorer 8
Beta 2. A bit too much clutter in IE 7 and 8, even
with no toolbars and menu hidden.
8.1. Google Chrome gathered my username and password from IE8!
Grayson Peddie - 09/02/08
I am a bit surprised...
I've made Google Chrome my default browser to see how
it goes without IE 8.
8.2. Google Chrome did not work with Windows Live Mail.
Grayson Peddie - 09/02/08
Once I attempt to log in to my Windows Live Mail
account, it prompted me to use Internet Explorer or
Firefox.
Perhaps there's a way to spoof using User Agent
Switcher without informing Microsoft of the error
message that I got?
9. It's fast
eggmanbubbagee@... - 09/02/08 (Edited: 09/02/08 @ 02:44)
just trying it now - everything seems
to pop right up more or less instantly
- I suppose this is a red letter day
in computing history, cheers!
IE users will probably carry on but this looks
like a real threat to Firefox to me.
9.1. and why exactly....
kolvas - 09/02/08
...would it be more of a threat to FF3 and not to IE7 or IE8? if it turns out to be such a great browser, i would think that people who have come to detest the bloated and cluttered IE7/8, would switch, if not to FF3, why not to google chrome? or are you suggesting that FF3 or opera users have become tired of their own browsers and looking for something new.
9.1.1. this is why, I think
eggmanbubbagee@... - 09/02/08
because there are a zillion IE users who have no idea
other browsers even exist - they use the default and
it's plenty good for them and probably always will be
- yes, the buzz over Chrome will pull in at least some
of them but I suspect the number of adventurous
browser users out there is limited and Chrome will be
pulling from those who have already switched from IE
to FF.
I wonder too about the long term support from Google
to FF. IIRC most of FF $$ come from Google.
9.1.2. I was wondering when
RobinInTheHood - 09/03/08
someone would turn this into a anti-microsoft rant
9.2. My first impression about the article with talkback in Google Chrome
Grayson Peddie - 09/02/08
It's initial memory usage is 28,100 kilobytes of
memory. Adobe Flash uses about 7 MB of memroy.
After my initial impressions, which is great, I then
analyzed the memory usage when scrolling up and down
using my mouse wheel. Memory usage for this web page
is 30,152 kilobytes and Adobe Flash uses about 8 MB of
memory.
Very impressive.
If anybody analyzes another website besides ZDNet,
please report back your findings. I'm going to find
one, too.
9.2.1. Uhhh
dcoaster - 09/02/08
FYI, 28,000KB is 28MB. 30,000KB is 30MB.
9.2.1.1. Stop teaching me or giving me a refreshment.
Grayson Peddie - 09/02/08
Look at my post again. Did you see the word "convert?"
No! Stop assuming that!
9.2.1.1.1. Be thankful if someone cares to help you right
kengelbrecht@... - 09/04/08
Have you ever heard of ISO? Google it and stop being so wrong and so rude at the same time!
How did that feel to you?
(28100KB must be written as 27.44141MB and 30152KB must be written as 29.44531MB)
9.2.2. Memory Management is pretty good.
Grayson Peddie - 09/02/08
However, yours may vary. Here're my results as far as
memory usage:
Initial analysis of CocoonTech.com: 8,848K
Scrolling down to the end of the webpage: 10,556K
Scrolling back up to the top: 10,556K
Peak memory usage: 10,896K
3DGameMan.com:
21,196K Initial with Adobe Flash using 7,292K of
Memory
Waited half-way; scrolling down to the bottom: 26,660K
of memory
For Adobe Flash, it uses 9,908K of memory
Peak usage of 26,660K for main webpage and 9,936K for
Flash
AccessHA.com
Initial memory usage: 9,964K used
Scrolling down to the end of the page: 16,840K used
Peak Usage around 17,100K of memory; sometimes, it may
go higher.
TechMall.com (SmartHome Forum)
Initial memory usage: 6,756K used
Scrolling down: 6,816K
Up/Down rapidly: Still stable at 6,816K of memory
PCWorld.com:
Initial Memory Usage: 15,768K and went up to 15,804
just slightly...
Initial Memory Usage for Flash: 14,552
(After a refresh, Adobe Flash not used; can vary with
each refresh)
Initial memory Usage After Refresh: 19,012K Memory
Scrolled to the bottom of the page: 20,268K of memory
Memory usage still the same after I went back up to
the top
My conclusion: Most of the websites are doing great,
but perhaps some websites need a little improvement
can help take some of the load off the memory? Google
Chrome is very good with memory management, especially
when it comes to handling Adobe Flash as a separate
process (I once said MacroMedia, but changed to Adobe
when writing a comment).
And by the way, do you know that "Stats for Nerds"
under Task Manager can show more information that the
webpages and plug-ins are currently using?
It can come in handy when developing your own
website(s).
9.2.3. I have similar results, but...
eMJayy - 09/02/08
..when i compare the windows task manager results in
WinXP to the Chrome task manager, the figures in the
windows task manager are higher by a few MB. Overall,
memory management is good.
10. Problem with Java
dcoaster - 09/02/08 (Edited: 09/02/08 @ 03:40)
Having a problem with Java apps and plugins. It can't find a suitable plugin. Any ideas?
10.1. It sounds like a known problem
CobraA1 - 09/02/08
From what I've seen so far, that's a known problem, probably going to be fixed soon.
11. First Error
kami31@... - 09/02/08
It opens up but when you try to browse it says
"The application failed to initialize properly (0x0000005). Click on OK to terminate the application"
Installing it again lets see
11.1. Symantec
kami31@... - 09/02/08
Just searched and it got issues with Symantec SEP when device control is installed
11.1.1. Why even run Symantec?
Kaiwai - 09/02/08
Why even run it? it is a piece of crap and causes nothing by stability and reliability issues.
11.1.1.1. In your opinion
RobinInTheHood - 09/03/08
I have never had an issue in 15 years of using symantec products
Sounds like maybe you need help properly configuring your system?
11.1.1.2. Symantec is the best
dch48 - 09/03/08 (Edited: 09/03/08 @ 10:52)
I have used Norton since 2000 and have never had a single issue with it. I also have never been hacked or infected with any virus, trojan, or worm. I currently have Internet Security 2008 which is fantastic. The two software makers I trust the most?--Symantec and---Microsoft. I am always very leery of installing anything open source. Some things are good, most is crap that causes conflicts and problems.
11.1.1.3. Why I run Symantec? Cuz its good
zomgguy - 09/04/08
I keep hearing stuff about Symantec crashing PCs and being really slow but that never happens to me. May be because of my high end computer, but there are no annoying things about Symantec's Norton Internet Security 2008, which is what I use. It never causes instability and reliability issues. If you have that opinion you must have configured your Norton wrongly or have a low end computer.
12. I Miss NoSquint Add On
chessmen - 09/02/08
Are there any add ons yet for Google Chrome?
12.1. I Also Miss NoSquint Add On
chessmen - 11/02/09
Yes, I know I can hit control and use the mouse wheel
to make text larger; big hairy deal. With NoSquint,
each page that I change the text size for is
memorized by NoSquint. I therefore don't have to
keep changing the text size every time I browse.
Come on Google, Chrome is fast, but I still need
NoSquint. I also wouldn't mind NoScript.
13. Chrome Is A Speed Demon
chessmen - 09/02/08
But Firefox is still more stable. I find I am having trouble with a few web sites. I also like Firefox's add-ons. Still, Google has the makings of a winner in Chrome.
13.1. No speed demon at all
dch48 - 09/03/08
In fact, in timed tests of actual page loads, no faster than IE7 on my machine.
14. Where's RSS?
twbeosl - 09/02/08
Nice, clean interface, and fast browsing, yes.
But one of the best features of Firefox since at least version 1.5 (three years ago?) is Firefox's seamless integration of RSS feeds into bookmarks.
So when I imported my bookmarks from Firefox into Chrome, I expected a similar behavior... but not one of them ported over.
So if I just want to do webmail, or fast browsing, for now, Chrome is good. But if I want to have the full web experience, with the blogsphere easily on tap, Firefox wins, hands down.
15. It's good, but it's no FF3 or Opera 9.5
eMJayy - 09/02/08 (Edited: 09/02/08 @ 08:26)
It's fast and has great memory utilization. The interface is very simple and i guess that's what they were aiming at,
but that feature isn't a selling point for me.
The fact that it uses Webkit was pretty obvious when the first page loaded...it's Safari without the dull grey...finally a
color that doesn't remind me of funeral parlor.
It opened my favorite pages easily..however, its use of the flash player plug-in was bad...very bad....It played CNN live video just fine at first; i went to full screen mode - no problem...but the video sort of stuttered for several seconds on returning to the
smaller window...tested it at MSNBC - same
problem....there was a significant lag when i tried to use the control buttons..
Checked my mail with it - no problems until i got to hotmail...the site brought up a page requesting that i 'upgrade' my browser...tried
it again a few more times, and then it worked, but the inbox was displaying in the Hotmail classic mode. I guess i shouldn't be surprised - Safari only displays hotmail in classic mode on my pc.
I tested the download manager...it's sleek and reminds me of the download manager extension i use in FF3...a lot...The problem with it is that it downloads the file first, then asks
you what you want to do...I don't like that. I prefer that i at least get one confirm message prior to any data being downloaded. This
opens you up to simple DRIVE-BY DOWNLOADS...i tested it at download.com by pasting a link into Chrome that would automatically trigger a download. The file downloaded without a single
prompt..that's just dangerous! Try it yourselves...paste the link below into your Chrome browser and you'll see that Mediamonkey's music player will download without authorization to do so...
The placement of the tabs was interesting, but not really useful....don't see the point of it...that just gives my mouse pointer a longer distance to travel to click on them. IF they were trying to create more space, they should have just included the fullscreen view that's been available in FF, Opera and IE for years.
Nothing happens when i press the F11 button to turn it on. I guess it's Webkit's fault. Safari's the only browser that i've ever seen
without a fullscreen view, until now.
Overall, it has the basic features needed for a decent web experience. But having just that puts it outside the league of FF and Opera, which are far more customizable and have a
major advantage of having hundreds of useful extensions.
My verdict....it's more of a Safari-killer than a FF or Opera killer . It could theoretically hurt IE; but even that's unlikely, unless Google can be persuasive enough to make users download it. Most
people won't take the time to try it as long as the 'blue E' continues to work. The major disappointment is with the download
manager...automatic downloading is dangerous and opens the user up to drive-by download attacks.
http://www.download.com/3001-2141_4-10855442.html
16. RE: First look at Google Chrome
rmlounsbury@... - 09/02/08
I'm impressed about Chrome based on what it was
designed to... Be a lightweight and fast browser with
exceptional management tools. It won't do a lot of
what Firefox, IE, or Opera will do. But, when I want
to look something up quick I'll look to Chrome.
For now I'll leave it on my system. I would love to
see a Linux version since I spend more time in Fedora
9 than XP.
This post brought to you by Chrome!
17. RE: First look at Google Chrome
binarysw@... - 09/02/08
welcoming the initiative to compete
www.binarysoft.info
18. Got the Chrome Blues?
JeremyEdmiston - 09/02/08
Take a peek at jeremyedmiston.com/chrome for the
screenshot and download...
Here's a quick fix to darken the appearance of the
bright blue browser recently released. Although the
browser,and consequently, the UI design decisions are
conceptually great, the colors of the UI are just a
little too bright for me. So here you will find a
'fix' - or at least my choice for colors (surprised
the Android team didn't suggest this)
19. RE: First look at Google Chrome
ak87 - 09/02/08
My fav feature is the task manager (right click up at
the top by the tabs) and the stats for nerds feature
its pretty cool it even shows the memory usage of
other browsers. it may be a marketing ploy but still I
like that better than the 3 finger salute to get the
task manager just to see how much memory firefox or IE
is eating up.
20. RE: First look at Google Chrome
ak87 - 09/02/08
Amen to that, I too was disappointed when my RSS feeds didn't show. And unfortunately the remote software for
where I go to school doesn't work with Chrome and I
doubt it will any time soon considering that it recognizes FF 3 as an unknown version of FF.
21. It's all about the plug-ins
Don Collins - 09/03/08
If Chrome gets all the great plug-ins of FF, it will own everything quite soon. IE redneck zombies will stay with IE - they think chrome is something shiny on a fender.
22. RE: First look at Google Chrome
BlasterNT - 09/03/08
this looks so similar to IE8
-Highlighting of domain name
-Damage control with tabs
-No menu bar
But i do agree that it looks pretty good
23. In my not-so-scientific test, Opera's javascript engine beats Google (just)
Scrat - 09/03/08
Using the Javascript test over at Celtic Kane (http://celtickane.com/projects/jsspeed.php), I did a quick comparison of Opera 9.52 build 10108 vs Google Chrome and did the test ten times to get an average figure.
Opera 9.52 - 254.7ms
Google Chrome - 262.2ms
As you can see, hardly a huge difference but still faster, despite the new Javascript V8 engine.
23.1. Hmm this looks highly suspicious...
Scrat - 09/03/08 (Edited: 09/03/08 @ 04:57)
In my previous INDEPENDANT test, Opera and Google were about par with each other, yet when I do the SunSpider tests (which are hosted by the Webkit team) the Webkit-based browser comes out over 2 times better:
** TOTAL **: 2.41x as fast 7971.2ms +/- 1.2% 3308.6ms +/- 1.6%
Could it be that the Webkit-based browsers have been optimised to complete the sunspider tests the quickest, thus not giving a real-world comparison?!?
24. Very fast, but -
mhenriday - 09/03/08
as is to be expected in a beta release - some things are missing. Like others here, I can't help wondering if we shall be provided access to certain essential FF add-ons like Adblock plus ; I should also like to be able to use my del.icio.us bookmarks. I very much appreciate the clean and elegant GUI, but not having access to the Google Toolbar for Firefox is going to take some getting used to on my part. I subjected the browser to the Acid3 Test, on which it scored 78 - better than Firefox 3.01, but hardly a gold medal. In any event, I'm very much looking forward to seeing a .deb version for 64-bit Ubuntu !...
Henri
25. RE: First look at Google Chrome
dhowton - 09/03/08
Problems with loading pdf documents and drop down menu
links not working from sites. Otherwise, great look
and easy to use.
26. So far so Good
Spugna - 09/03/08
I have already installed Google chrome and started using it -
Few good things:
- the 'incognito' feature, a tab which can be opened in the same window however where you can surf webpages without leaving traces behind - without need to open a new browser window entirely, delete cookies and the likes!
- the home tab exposing nicely and quickly the most visited webpages, searches and bookmark, super cool too
I was concerned about the lack of the search engine plug-ins, as I got addicted to it recently, but now search is even faster!
So far so good
http://glocalsolution.blogspot.com/
28. RE: First look at Google Chrome
ronatkcrw - 09/03/08
Great. So now Google not only has my searches indexed, it can now index every page I ever visit.
29. Chrome is Disruptive Technology
faseidl - 09/03/08
The interesting questions to me are not if Chrome (beta) is ready for prime time (it is not) or which established browser will suffer more (they all will.) What I find more interesting is that it appears to have all the trappings of a disruptive technology hiding in plain sight.
I wrote more about this idea here:
Google Chrome: Disruptive Technology
http://faseidl.com/public/blog/212172
30. RE: More the merrier?
The Management consultant - 09/03/08
I am welcoming of another web browser but Goggle should have gone with a distribution to showcase its wears. What I look for in a browser is as follows and at this stage Goggle is an unknown so no decision yet. It?s got to be fast, it?s got to open all WebPages and not crash. It?s got to be multi platform backwardly compatible and have a quality community surrounding it. I have no reason to move just yet from Firer fox unless Goggle has a white rabbit in the pot?
31. RE: First look at Google Chrome
dch48 - 09/03/08 (Edited: 09/03/08 @ 10:38)
I tried it and timed actual page loading versus my IE7---no difference whatsoever. I also did not like the cookie handling and the stupid bookmark bar that has to be showing for you to access your favorites. Then when I began investigating "under the hood", I discovered that it breaks it's cookies into pieces. The one login cookie from my home page was broken into at least 6 pieces, one clearly labeled name which gave my user name, another gave the password. That made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. I uninstalled and found that the updater remained behind as a still running process that had been put into the autostart in my registry. I had to manually stop the process before I could delete the google and chrome folders left behind after the "uninstall". Then run a registry cleaner to get rid of the autostart and other junk left behind. I am not amused, or impressed by this browser, if that's even what it really is. I'm sticking with IE7 and probably eventually going with 8.
32. Another way for Google to invade our privacy...
transposeIT - 09/03/08
Well another nice attempt by Google to secretly gather data concerning your browsing habits.
33. A solution waiting for a problem
tonymcs@... - 09/03/08
With all its supposed superiority FF is still only 20%. Now they can look forward to Google sharing that small pond while the rest of us just use the free browser that came with the OS.
What a waste of time and effort.
34. RE: First look at Google Chrome
david.llewellyn - 09/04/08
I completely agree with you about the download manager. There must be at least one level of authorisation before downloading. Also, I want to decide what I do with the download, so I do not like the interface at all. It would be nice if the customisation allowed the user to choose.
35. Please help me someone!
zomgguy - 09/04/08
After hearing from a guy that Chrome is EXTREMELY FAST or so he said, I decided to try it out and it's really slow. By now I'm starting to think that something is wrong with my settings, because Chrome is meant to be a thousand times faster than my current browser (Firefox 3) but it's actually slower by a mile. I am running Vista 64bit and am baffled at how slow Chrome loads webpages. Chrome runs pretty fast in running the application itself (like opening tabs, changing settings, etc.) but the webpage loading speed is really horrible.
Something wrong with my settings?